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GOP might be happy to let Democrats deal with post-Bush mess
Baltimore Sun ^ | May 23, 2007 | Victor Kamber

Posted on 05/23/2007 7:50:57 AM PDT by rface

Their thinking: Let the Democrats win in 2008. Let them inherit the huge debt, the war and all the problems of eight years of George W. Bush. Let the conservatives, they reason, take this opportunity to rebuild and, by 2012, come roaring back to the White House. If Mr. Goldwater's defeat set conservatives back two decades, think about the Democrats in 2008 and their two talented front-runners, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. Can you imagine a worse time for the first female president or the first black president - succeeding a man who entered the Oval Office with surpluses as far as the eye could see and leaves it treading water?.....

Why are so many Democrats feeling uneasy about the 2008 elections? Every indication is they're going to win big. Republicans in Congress are sure doing their part to keep Democratic hopes high. Hardly a day passes without the GOP leadership blocking some initiative people desperately want - such as ending the hated Iraq war or refusing to allow the government to negotiate lower drug prices.

Quietly, a group of conservative Republicans who have begun meeting believe that a loss in 2008 might be the best thing that could happen to their movement. They certainly aren't happy with any of the front-runners. To accept any of them would mean a huge compromise - and moreover, these Republicans believe, that compromise candidate would still probably lose the election.

Meanwhile, what's bugging Democrats is the inconvenient truth that the next president will inherit a federal government resembling the Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


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To: rface

Yah, the Democrats should just sit this one out, governing is such a burden especially this mess. BTW just don’t throw me into the briar patch.


41 posted on 05/23/2007 8:28:01 AM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: rface

Yeah, Just the way the Republicans cleaned up FDR’s New Deal mess, or LBJ’s Great Society mess or Jimmy Carter’s total mess or...........


42 posted on 05/23/2007 8:31:12 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: rface

This kind of idiot thinking deserves a swift kick in the ass.

Win by losing?

Yeah right.


43 posted on 05/23/2007 8:31:26 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: alloysteel
And you thought it might only be Social Security that collapsed.

Imagine the tax increase that will be necessary to support 12,000,000 new immigrants. Then add their families expenses to that number.
Now add the price of unfettered universal health care for every human in the country.

All paid for by 48% of the nation - the U.S. taxpayer.

44 posted on 05/23/2007 8:31:32 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: rface

Baltimore Sun.....that’s all I need to see to know this story rates lower than Whale Shit.


45 posted on 05/23/2007 8:32:29 AM PDT by docman57 (Retired but still on Duty)
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To: rface

46 posted on 05/23/2007 8:34:33 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

He needs to review that focus group done right next door.Nobody liked a democrat for pres. We are headed to another massive landslide against Dems who seem to have combined all of their big losing elections into one giant suicide mission. We have the antiwar of McGovern plus the tax hikes of Mondale and Hillarycare all wrapped up in one.


47 posted on 05/23/2007 8:49:35 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: docman57
Baltimore Sun.....

That's the first thing I noticed. I knew the article was going to sound like a democrat infomercial before I even read it. If it's an "I hate everything but myself" article - it's left wing.

My daughter was taking a sample college entry exam handed out by our local college. She was shocked at how negative every question was (We home school, so we're not used to all that negativity). For example, there was a reading comprehension segment about picnics. Instead of stating how pleasant picnics were, the paragraph talked about the torrid temperatures, ants, and summer molds more than the great food prepared for the adventure. It was supposedly a positive read, but the NEA just had to add some type of misery to the mental picture.
You wouldn't believe the segment they had about Harlem! You'd think America treated the poor no different than the Jews during the Holocaust.
I don't think the lefties like anything. They must wake up every morning and make a list of all the things they're going to hate for the day.

48 posted on 05/23/2007 8:52:03 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: rface

nothing did more to fuel the conservative movement than four years of Jimmy Carter, so I do see the logic in their point.

Unfortunately, this time around none of us might be alive in 4 yrs. to elect the next Reagan.


49 posted on 05/23/2007 8:55:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: All
I don't buy into this all that much but it looks like I might be the only person that doesn't think it's totally loony.

Firstly note in the 3rd paragraph he says "a group of conservative Republicans". Conservative.

Now what has a republican majority gotten us in the last 7 years. Other than SCOTUS appointments not much in my book. Free drugs, CFR, the lack of any kind of border enforcement, education bills and so on. With these kinds of friends....

True we do have the WoT but has it been prosecuted as vigorously as it really needs to be? The way to win a war is to kill a boatload of the enemy until there aren't any more or he's lost the will to fight. I would argue that no war has been won any other way.

It wouldn't seem that we've always fought with that purpose in mind.

True we got tax cuts. Temporary tax cuts. Reagan got tax cuts and didn't control the house. They were scared of him.

The question is do we need to lose to win? I have a hard time swallowing that but on the other hand forget Goldwater, I think Reagan got elected because Ford didn't win and we got peanut brain.

But the big one is what the enemy could do in four years. But then Iraq and Korea have the bomb, or will have it soon...all under a republican administration.

Got ahead, tar 'n feather me.

50 posted on 05/23/2007 9:11:01 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: rface
Hardly a day passes without the GOP leadership blocking some initiative people desperately want - such as ending the hated Iraq war

It's really a relief to learn that congress can vote the hoards of Islamic nut cases that want us all dead out of existence. What are they waiting for? Just vote to end it, so we can get back to spending the peace dividend and getting serviced under the Oval Office desk.

51 posted on 05/23/2007 9:16:38 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Proud_texan
Ford didn't win and we got peanut brain.

Which likely had a big hand in creating Iran we have today.

52 posted on 05/23/2007 9:18:23 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: rface
this strategy would be a big mistake.

Idle fantasizing by a burned out columnist facing a deadline. Pay this no mind.

53 posted on 05/23/2007 9:30:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Minn
"Which likely had a big hand in creating Iran we have today."

I'd go with had a big hand and drop the likely. I'd also suggest that if Bush I had any rocks he would have finished the job. Whah, but it's the coalition, it's the coalition. Coalition my butt. Did he think that Sadam was just gonna sit back and play nice with the other kids? Sheesh, Bush I was almost as much of a moron as peanut brain.

While I understand why it was done I'd also put our pullout of Beirut as another small, but likely factor in the whole mess.

No stone throwing, just perfect 20/20 hindsight.

54 posted on 05/23/2007 10:13:07 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: rface
this strategy would be a big mistake.

Yep. It would be. But I remember people on this board saying it would be a good thing if the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006. That has worked out well, hasn't it?
55 posted on 05/23/2007 10:23:20 AM PDT by goldfinch
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To: DangerDanger; All

VICTOR KAMBER, DEMOCRATIC CONSULTANT

I remember this stooge sticking up for Clinton during the Lewinsky goings on. I have a hard time believing that he was ever a Republican.

Spittle mouth Matthews had him on almost every night. And he never had a nice word for conservatives.


56 posted on 05/23/2007 10:59:03 AM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: rface

We nominate Rudy McRomney, and it will be the reality.


57 posted on 05/23/2007 5:25:16 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Would you vote for President a guy who married his cousin? Me, neither. Accept no RINOs. Fred in '08)
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