Posted on 06/01/2007 4:34:31 AM PDT by Marathoner
When it comes to dealing with the illegal immigration issue, President Bush and his administration are their own worst enemies. On other issues, the president is sugar and spice when it comes to Democrat opponents. But when it comes to rule-of-law conservative opposition to his “amnesty” proposal, the preferred method of operation is akin to thwacking the hornet’s nest with a stick.
You may recall that when the Minutemen first brought this issue to major public attention a few years ago with their volunteer border patrols, President Bush called them “vigilantes.” And it’s been pretty much all downhill from there, leading to his big May 29 speech on the current immigration reform proposal at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Georgia.
The president began his remarks by introducing two Hispanic members of his administration, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez and former Cabinet member Mel Martinez, now a U.S. Senator from Florida. Both were born in Cuba. “I want to mention those two men because, to me, they represent what the immigration debate is all about,” the president said.
So right out of the chute the president misrepresents the issue. I don’t believe Gutierrez and Martinez are illegal immigrants. They and/or their families immigrated here legally. And it appears both came here to escape the oppression of the Castro regime, not to simply get a higher-paying job. So Gutierrez and Martinez are NOT what this immigration debate is about. The issue is over those who break the law to get here.
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This conversation is over. Period!Don’t bother to post to me,You are just so superior and so much better then me. I would never insult MYSELF BY POSTING BACk. GO INSULT SOMEONE ELSE!
You are lying through your teeth, Betsy. I have checked every post in this thread and the ONLY mention of rail cars was in a post talking about coal vs. nuclear power.
Where is the check and how do I make money , like you say I do?
You'd better ask Soros or LaRaza why your check hasn't come in yet. ;-)
You sure look like you are in lockstep with someone's hysterical talking points. Here, have some Mexican water!
Cheers!
Well, I’ve learned something here. Because of his pro-illegal aliean stance, Tony Snow has lost much of my respect.
We have experienced 21 years of institutionalized dereliction of duty (I’m referring to Article IV, Section IV of the constitution). There is no valid excuse for it.
Get real I fought Soros before you knew how to spell his name. I am so sorry if you cannot take both sides of an issue and study it. You better realize there are a lot of things to consider.Iif I was a Soros clown I would be a millionare cause I brought out more about him then you ever could.I made Soros so black and blue in the last presidental election that he still has the marks. But who cares, you are just another person I just won’t answer to in this forum. Too bad Free Republic has not established the igge button. I guess I will have to just ignore you too. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO GET LOST!
Post 121 applies to you also.
I even put an emoticon next to the remark about the Soros or LaRaza check...
and all you did is insult me about Soros. So if you did beat him black and blue in the last election, how come his fingerprints appear to be all over this little matter?
PS I will do you the honor of responding about the "both sides of an issue and studying it."
Go read my vanity on Peak Labor.
The point is that demographics (abortion on demand, fewer children per family, aging population) almost *require* the US to import more workers.
And the business shills are foisting the societal costs of their Third-World labor force onto the rest of us (disease, crime, ER visits, etc.)
If immigration were pursued so as to require effective assimilation, and to preserve the mores unique to the United States, I would support it.
Cheers!
Do you think Ronald Reagan should have been impeached for his amnesty of illegal immigrants in 1986?
“Poor Tony Snow.
He must really be second guessing why he took the job.”
I doubt it. He was an open-border zealot long before he became press secretary.
I recently went to a local store to purchase a money order. The gentleman behind the counter was a Latin American who went on a RANT about how people were sending billions of dollars every year back to Mexico/ElSalvador, etc. How proud he is to be an American citizen, what a wonderful country this is, how worthless most of Latin America is. I was amazed as he ranted on with his hispanic accent.... and pleased.
Reagan was also suckered by Ted Kennedy !
This bill lead to California becoming a Blue state real quick . That bill caused a whole new influx of new illegals sine it left a new need for new cheap labor since the 1986 group became legal and left those job in mass which for jobs with benefits .
That is because he knows like our relatives knew how bad Europe and Asia was. The man is a solution to the problem, he knows what it is to suffer in a poor country like a lot of our relatives did. Do some family research, there is a sad story in every family. There was one in my fathers , I bet you can find one in yours.
Does fire melt steel?
“Do some family research, there is a sad story in every family.” Yeah, I think it was called the Potato Famine :)
I was so proud of that man, just wanted to hug him ... my solution to the immigrant problem is that we trade a dozen
native born American liberals* for every illegal who risked his/her life crossing the border and wants to be here to adopt the real American Dream, not just go on social programs.
* can be modified to begin with Congressmen/Senators, R or D, advocating the present legislation before Congress on immigration
If having millions of cheap workers were the way to build wealth, most of Africa, Asia, and South America would be rich now. In reality, a large supply of low-skilled laborers is merely a way to have a class system where the monied and connected elites can stay on top and have little worry about the underclass removing them. There are PLENTY of such examples in Africa, Asia, and South America. Is this what Bush really wants?
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