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Bush's Attack on Amnesty Opponents
Townhall ^ | 5/31/07 | Chuck Muth

Posted on 06/01/2007 4:34:31 AM PDT by Marathoner

When it comes to dealing with the illegal immigration issue, President Bush and his administration are their own worst enemies. On other issues, the president is sugar and spice when it comes to Democrat opponents. But when it comes to rule-of-law conservative opposition to his “amnesty” proposal, the preferred method of operation is akin to thwacking the hornet’s nest with a stick.

You may recall that when the Minutemen first brought this issue to major public attention a few years ago with their volunteer border patrols, President Bush called them “vigilantes.” And it’s been pretty much all downhill from there, leading to his big May 29 speech on the current immigration reform proposal at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Georgia.

The president began his remarks by introducing two Hispanic members of his administration, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez and former Cabinet member Mel Martinez, now a U.S. Senator from Florida. Both were born in Cuba. “I want to mention those two men because, to me, they represent what the immigration debate is all about,” the president said.

So right out of the chute the president misrepresents the issue. I don’t believe Gutierrez and Martinez are illegal immigrants. They and/or their families immigrated here legally. And it appears both came here to escape the oppression of the Castro regime, not to simply get a higher-paying job. So Gutierrez and Martinez are NOT what this immigration debate is about. The issue is over those who break the law to get here.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrationbacklash; noamnestyforillegals; thebestdefense
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I've never heard of this guy, but man, is he ever spot on on this one.
1 posted on 06/01/2007 4:34:32 AM PDT by Marathoner
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To: Marathoner
IMPEACH (New World Order) Bush, NOW!!!
2 posted on 06/01/2007 4:36:40 AM PDT by blam
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To: Marathoner
Follow the money. Somebody has convinced the President that we Americans can’t/won’t maintain the growing economy without cheap labor. Just wait until the lawsuits start for reparations over nonliving wages.
3 posted on 06/01/2007 4:43:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Marathoner
After watching his Father putresce after an extreme outpouring of public support, it comes as no surprise that this President has now done exactly the same thing.

Not only abandoning the people who got him to the dance, but then totally and blatantly disrespecting them.

Read my lips - No more Bushes.

< caveat > Unless the alternative is a Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Edwards, Dodd, Kennedy, etc....< /caveat >

4 posted on 06/01/2007 4:45:47 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Marathoner

“I’ve never heard of this guy, but man, is he ever spot on on this one.”

Nope he’s wrong.

Unless you dry up the jobs, the illegal’s motivation to come here in the first place, you’ll never solve the problem.

Draconian penalties(large fines and jail time) on the enablers of illegal immigration, the employers who break the law by hiring illegals, HAS to be a part of the solution. A few well publicized frog marches of employers to jail will, as it did in the corporate scandals, get the message across loud and clear. They’re just as guilty as the Mexican who sneaks across the border.

Make it so painful on those who would BREAK THE LAW by hiring illegals OR CONTINUING TO EMPLOY ILLEGALS that the job market drys up and with no chance of continuing income most self-deport or never come in the first place.

Otherwise, nothing will change.


5 posted on 06/01/2007 4:47:44 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: blam

agree. its time for this fool and traitor to be kicked out for intentionally leaving our border open for his fat cat friends needing cheap labor .


6 posted on 06/01/2007 4:48:29 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: Marathoner

Poor Tony Snow.

He must really be second guessing why he took the job.


7 posted on 06/01/2007 4:51:08 AM PDT by AIM-54
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To: Marathoner

I defended and backed Bush because, rightly so, Bush appeared to understand that you don’t “end” wars. You either achieve victory or accept defeat. Bush has been unwilling to do either—he will not engage in war, he will not disengage in defeat. He will stay in the muddle in the middle. He will not fight to win—politically or militarily—nor will the CIA, DoD or DoS. They are all chattering leisure class imbeciles that resemble more than anything the effete, self hating fools, communists and nihilistic “academics” (sodomites and cowards) who presided over the collapse of the British Empire.

Amnesty—yup, that’s what it is. Bush has now left the fold entirely and the remnant GOP will, as a result, in 2008, be a minor irritant to the socialist revolution that is sweeping this once free nation.

Hate speech legislation will pass, Bush may veto, may not, I lean toward he will not. This will effectively silence all but the Michael Moores and the Cynthia Keenans.

Grand Old Party—uh huh, geriatric and senile. In your face homosexual activism is unchecked, invaders are called undocumented workers, high school and college graduates are semi-literate, infantile and unproductive; they have no foundation and are ignorant of even the most basic conventions of an America grounded in a historic exceptionalism that made this the greatest nation on earth.

Just ask George Soros to turn off the lights as he leaves.


8 posted on 06/01/2007 4:53:27 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: AIM-54

What makes you say that? Everyone’s seen this coming for a long time.


9 posted on 06/01/2007 4:53:55 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: AIM-54
Does anyone know Tony's position on illegals before he joined the White House?

I was disappointed to hear Michael Medved support this bill 100% - he just doesn't get it. (sigh)

10 posted on 06/01/2007 4:54:39 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: blam

If the Dims began impeachment proceedings, I would not defend Bush. He has been derelict in his duties as President.


11 posted on 06/01/2007 4:54:50 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Marathoner

Same old bait ‘n switch.

Al Quaeda attacks from Afghanistan, attack Iraq which he wanted to do anyway.

Legal immigrants do well here, let in illegals which he wanted to do anyway.

We have to call them illegal ALIENS, not immigrants, to keep the distinction clear.


12 posted on 06/01/2007 4:55:25 AM PDT by From many - one.
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"So right out of the chute the president misrepresents the issue. I don’t believe Gutierrez and Martinez are illegal immigrants. They and/or their families immigrated here legally. And it appears both came here to escape the oppression of the Castro regime, not to simply get a higher-paying job. So Gutierrez and Martinez are NOT what this immigration debate is about. The issue is over those who break the law to get here."

The problem with these two men is that they came here legally, worked their way up to positions of power, took the oath to protect the constitution from enemy's foreign and domestic only to labor to betray their own oaths and give America away.

In my simple understanding of things - this is the worst form of treason. Not only should these men lose their positions but be prosecuted, imprisoned and then deported back to their country of origin on completion of their sentence.

13 posted on 06/01/2007 5:00:22 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Marathoner
When it comes to dealing with the illegal immigration issue, President Bush and his administration are their own worst enemies.

You can say that again, and again, and again, and again...!!!

14 posted on 06/01/2007 5:01:38 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Neville72
Apply a 40% tax on those remittances to anywhere outside the USA by non-US citizens. Now there's a tax increase that I can get behind.
15 posted on 06/01/2007 5:03:32 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Marathoner
“I want to mention those two men because, to me, they represent what the immigration debate is all about,” the president said.

So right out of the chute the president misrepresents the issue. I don’t believe Gutierrez and Martinez are illegal immigrants.

Jorge is so misinformed, and so full of S. We now all know who told his dad to sign the tax increase. Jorge said look pop no one will ever remember the read my lips BS. Old ten ear Jorge himself.

16 posted on 06/01/2007 5:04:52 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Marathoner

bump for later


17 posted on 06/01/2007 5:11:27 AM PDT by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Marathoner

Jorge can go suck an egg.


18 posted on 06/01/2007 5:11:44 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Marathoner
The two worst votes I ever made. The man can give a rat’s ass about America or it’s citizens. He’s nothing but an elitist/globalist just like ole’ dad. 6 years and the idiot can’t bring himself to close the friggin’ border. He should be Impeached for dereliction of his duties as President.
19 posted on 06/01/2007 5:13:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Huck
No Huck, everyone hasn't seen this coming for a long time
Bush convinced us he was a good guy....looking out for our interests...

...until the truth hit us in the face, many of us held to our loyalty of him ..

..until we realized we had been sucker punched!

20 posted on 06/01/2007 5:22:19 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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