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Opinions, Far Apart, Underscore Immigration Bill’s Obstacles
The New York Times ^ | June 5, 2007 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 06/04/2007 8:23:40 PM PDT by mdittmar

Representative José E. Serrano,Democrat of the Bronx, objects to a recent bipartisan proposal on immigration policy because,he says, it would create an underclass of immigrant workers with few rights.

Representative Peter King, a Republican of Long Island, has a problem with the plan, too, but for an altogether different reason. To him, it amounts to amnesty for legions of illegal immigrants in the country.

And in the middle are lawmakers like Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, who calls the plan a “fair starting point” to deal with the question of what to do about the millions of immigrants who are in the country illegally.

A survey of lawmakers from the New York metropolitan region shows that they are every bit as divided about the comprehensive immigration bill now being considered in Washington as many of their colleagues around the country are.

The measure,a result of negotiations between the White House and a group of senators from both parties, would offer legal status to most of the nation’s 12 million illegal immigrants, increase penalties for employers of illegal immigrants and toughen border security.

But the diverging views of lawmakers from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut underscore the difficulties, even peril, the plan faces, particularly as it comes under attack from grass-roots opponents on both the right and the left.

Mr. Serrano, for one, questions whether a compromise on the plan can be reached in the current climate. “Everybody seems dug in,” he said in a recent interview. “Right now, I don’t see how it will happen.”

On the other hand, “it could turn overnight,” Mr. Serrano added, referring to the impasse. “One never knows.”

The Senate, which began debating the bill in late May, is scheduled to resume debate this week. Critics in both parties have proposed substantial amendments.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: immigration
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The legislation faces a more uncertain future in the House, which may take the matter up later this summer. Democratic leaders have raised their own objections to it and have said that Mr. Bush will need to deliver a significant number of Republican votes to ensure its passage.
1 posted on 06/04/2007 8:23:42 PM PDT by mdittmar
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I am made that they are busy erecting walls to hinder law enforcement. I thought each step would weed out the bad guys, but not so. If someone flunks his background test or employer verification the authorities don’t get the info which would allow them to pick them up. The criminal protection racket is at it again.


2 posted on 06/04/2007 8:29:37 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: mdittmar

There are no obstacles to this stench.

Not even a fence.

Promised long ago.

This is death for the average American Joe.


3 posted on 06/04/2007 8:30:06 PM PDT by petertare (--)
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To: mdittmar

Wow. One of the few articles I’ve read that mentions the ‘ill’ (illegal) word and it’s in the Slimes. Who woulda thunk it.


4 posted on 06/04/2007 8:32:01 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (President Bush - The Enabler)
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To: mdittmar

http://www.attackcartoons.com

i’ve forgotten how to post images.so this will have to do.


5 posted on 06/04/2007 8:34:20 PM PDT by attackcartoons
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Yeah, what happened to “undocumented workers?” The NYSlimes has a lot of nerve calling these poor, put upon folks “illegal.”

Hell, in my book that’s bigoted and borders on being a hate crime.

6 posted on 06/04/2007 8:36:56 PM PDT by upchuck (If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: mdittmar

The DC clowns don’t seem to take into account that the American people, who they were elected to represent, DO NOT WANT their lousy bill. End of story!


7 posted on 06/04/2007 8:38:55 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: attackcartoons
Will this do?


8 posted on 06/04/2007 8:41:11 PM PDT by upchuck (If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: mdittmar
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

9 posted on 06/04/2007 8:41:50 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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“Representative José E. Serrano,Democrat of the Bronx, objects to a recent bipartisan proposal on immigration policy because,he says, it would create an underclass of immigrant workers with few rights.”

This is true... but at least they will have welfare.


10 posted on 06/04/2007 8:42:46 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; bitt; mdittmar

11 posted on 06/04/2007 8:45:34 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Odd that the Slimes deals with NY pols. Illegal immigration in its true horror really is felt horribly in the SW, Ca., Fla. and though illegals are now in every state, when one sees millions in the areas mentioned, that becomes the illegal horror that really is appalling. NY is not quite the state which should set this debate. I wish they had the millions Ca. and AZ has and then let them poo pooh the problems of illegality.


12 posted on 06/04/2007 8:52:04 PM PDT by phillyfanatic ( w)
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To: upchuck

That’s funny,I almost puked using the full nyt title;)


13 posted on 06/04/2007 8:52:11 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: potlatch

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LOL!

That sure looks like Bush’s Ford PU!


14 posted on 06/04/2007 8:56:17 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today That*s_25/Day_175/Wk_710/Mo_8500/Yr Compare_Iraq_&_911_)
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To: devolve

I hate to tell you but THAT is the truckload of illegals that we used in many graphics, lol.

I cut it out carefully, looked great. I put it on the gif, looked good. Then had to reduce file size and image size and it lost it’s clarity!


15 posted on 06/04/2007 8:59:38 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

Schumer, Kennedy, and Bush have family and ethnic agendas in pushing this comprehensive US taxpayer ripoff

CAIR is right in there with them too


16 posted on 06/04/2007 9:01:39 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today That*s_25/Day_175/Wk_710/Mo_8500/Yr Compare_Iraq_&_911_)
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To: devolve

So this week may become more interesting as the fight goes on!


17 posted on 06/04/2007 9:04:53 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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Representative José E. Serrano,Democrat of the Bronx, objects to a recent bipartisan proposal on immigration policy because,he says, it would create an underclass of immigrant workers with few rights.

Unbelievable. HE gets it, and yet the great humanitarian over there on 1600 Penn can't open his eyes and see he's basically proposed a new slave class.

And, you know, that's the ONE part of this I can't come to grips with. I know Bush thinks 70% of the American people are bigots for rejecting this. I know he thinks he's HELPING these people because he has some twisted idea this is simple prejudice based on the color of their skin or geography. But how can he NOT see what this DEMOCRAT can see? He needs to remove the plank from his own eye.

18 posted on 06/04/2007 9:17:28 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: potlatch

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LOL!

No wonder that PU looks familiar!


19 posted on 06/04/2007 9:26:34 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today That*s_25/Day_175/Wk_710/Mo_8500/Yr Compare_Iraq_&_911_)
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To: devolve

Yes, it would be great if the waving illegals showed up better! I even worked on their waving hands!! Lost in the downsize!


20 posted on 06/04/2007 9:28:12 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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