Posted on 06/09/2007 10:11:02 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
65 percent to 35 percent, with 9289 posting. Still needs Freeping.
Just voted:
Do you want Congress to give the immigration bill another chance?
Yes 35% 3297 votes
No 65% 5992 votes
Have a great weekend all!
Foisting it on us against our collective wills. It’s called ‘Despotism’.... exactly what our founding fathers fought against as well..tyrannical rulers.
Rigged poll? Not taking any more NO votes?
I wouldn't put it past CNN.
President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents - less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.
General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal. He then quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."
America "was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large scale," Mr. Brownell said.
According to the Handbook of Texas Online, published by the University of Texas at Austin and the Texas State Historical Association, this illegal workforce had a severe impact on the wages of ordinary working Americans. The Handbook Online reports that a study by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas in 1950 found that cotton growers in the Rio Grande Valley, where most illegal aliens in Texas worked, paid wages that were "approximately half" the farm wages paid elsewhere in the state.
Profits from illegal labor led to the kind of corruption that apparently worried Eisenhower. Joseph White, a retired 21-year veteran of the Border Patrol, says that in the early 1950s, some senior US officials overseeing immigration enforcement "had friends among the ranchers," and agents "did not dare" arrest their illegal workers.
Walt Edwards, who joined the Border Patrol in 1951, tells a similar story. He says: "When we caught illegal aliens on farms and ranches, the farmer or rancher would often call and complain [to officials in El Paso]. And depending on how politically connected they were, there would be political intervention. That is how we got into this mess we are in now."
During the 1950s, however, this "Good Old Boy" system changed under Eisenhower - if only for about 10 years.
Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.
By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.
By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.
Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.
Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south.
The sea voyage was "a rough trip, and they did not like it," says Don Coppock, who worked his way up from Border Patrolman in 1941 to eventually head the Border Patrol from 1960 to 1973.
"Some say we cannot send 12 million illegals now in the United States back where they came from. Of course we can!" Edwards says.
Donald Coppock, who headed the Patrol from 1960 to 1973, says that if Swing and Ike were still running immigration enforcement, "they'd be on top of this in a minute."
Edwards says: "When we start enforcing the law, these various businesses are, on their own, going to replace their [illegal] workforce with a legal workforce."
2500 more votes and not even a 1% change?
Do you want Congress to give the immigration bill another chance?
Yes 36% 3609 votes
No 64% 6513 votes
Total: 10122 votes
Yes 36% 3762 votes
No 64% 6783 votes
Total: 10545 votes
There are small and large cities in the United States where the American Language is no longer spoken and unless you speak Span-ish you will be denied work. Do you not see every day the big retailers placing signs in Span-ish in their stores so that one does not know what one is buying unless you have an interpretor or a book with you.
The invasion is taking hold just as it did in Rome and the barbarians will destroy our nation and its way of life and the Congress like the Senate of Rome is doing nothing to keep us free. They are keeping their ROYAL Butts in their limos and names in the NYTs and Wasnington Post by supporting the invasion.
We have elected cowards and traitors to the US Senate and House and no one seems to care so the invasion will continue especially if the left wins the total election in 2008 when they will make the laws that will make this the Democratic United States of Mexico.
Surely, the interns must be running the shop at CNN.com this weekend.
I can’t imagine REAL employees at CNN allowing this sort of result
(so far) to be available to the rest of the planet:
Yes: 36% 3902 votes
No: 64% 7041 votes
Total: 10943 votes
I think it’s worse than that. Last time I was at one of the bigger, nicer malls where I live, the sales clerk at Macy’s in the lady’s clothing department spoke neither English, nor Spanish nor French. Although she was not wearing a tablecloth over her head and body, and although that department did not sell wearable tableclothes, she spoke some verion of arabic. The only people she could help were those wearing tableclothes. I had to go to another cash register.
Maybe the U.S. should start celebrating Guye Fawke's Day...and get it right?
Yes, and when the REAL employees show up Monday morning and see this, they're likely to seriously consider firing Lou Dobbs if he's having that kind of influence on their usual viewers.
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When the illegals are gone where will “they” get the replacement workers?
If they hadn’t legislated teens out of most of the jobs I had in junior high & high school, they would have a larger base of workers.
If they didn’t take away half of every dollar earned from Social Security checks, more older people could afford to work.
If they didn’t have bloated government payrolls, more workers would be available to WORK for a living.
With 12-20,000,000 illegals gone, a hell of a lot of jobs won't need to be done: extra teachers & administrators; extra cops & related; extra grocery workers; extra telemarketers....
That is also up to 5% or so fewer people polluting the air; buying food, gas, water, electricity, housing; congesting roads --without insurance & licenses to a large extent; $$BILLIONS$$ of earnings staying IN this country, rather than being sent across the border.
“they”
Don’t ask; I have no idea where that came from! Just send a ‘thank you’ note to Bill Gates.
I was going to vote, but I didn’t see ‘ron paul’ listed.
Do you want Congress to give the immigration bill another chance?
Yes 36% 5666 votes
No 64% 10180 votes
Total: 15846 votes
I’m sure your plan would work. However, if it did not, what do you think would happen to the American economy?
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