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To: radar101
If it can be killed in the House then this will be a great campaign tool for the Republicans. States like Washington and Oregon and other rust belt states with Dem Senators who vote for this will be very vulnerable I think.

Republican Senators who vote for this may lose their seat in the primaries, which is good, or in the general, which may balance out in the end. In other word we could pick up seats in borderline states like Washington and Oregon but lose seats in SC or Arizona. Either way the amnesty ideas will be one the new Senate will shun.

12 posted on 06/14/2007 6:25:00 AM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: nativist

If the bill passes, it is game, set and match. It matters not what future Senates do. We will have legalized the status of 12 to 20 million people, which will effectively sow the seeds of our own destruction. You can’t unring a bell.


17 posted on 06/14/2007 6:31:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: nativist
Short term it helps us -- but long term it makes us a permanent minority -- it means conservatives will have no leverage whatsoever, forever! Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Virginia, Nevada-- have all been going from red to blue because of immigration, this bill would accelerate that. How can the idiots in the Senate not see that?
19 posted on 06/14/2007 6:32:16 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: nativist
“but lose seats in SC or Arizona”

Hopefully, we will lose the Sr. Senator from Texas. She is voting in line with the McPain bunch, and telling us it is against the bill - that we just don’t understand.

I keep telling the talking heads on her phones that if she were above board and honest, it would be refreshing, and we would understand.

27 posted on 06/14/2007 6:42:44 AM PDT by momf (Remember the Alamo! Legal immigration only!!)
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To: nativist
"If it can be killed in the House then this will be a great campaign tool for the Republicans."

I think it would be very unwise to
a - Assume amnesty would fail in the House after Senate passage,
b - Consider this episode in terms of 'good' or 'bad' for one or the other political party, and
c - Even entertain the notion that congress is capable of presenting a bill so absolutely bad that the current president would fail to sign it.

So long as 'reform' is somewhere in the title, he'll sign just about anything that comes along. Anything, that is, that allows his compadres to stay where they are and allows future administrations to carry on with our traditional lack of enforcement.

When it starts to smell too bad, in twenty years or so, they can do it again - just like they are doing now.

58 posted on 06/14/2007 7:12:00 AM PDT by norton
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To: nativist

We have one repubbie in the Senate in Oregon, Gordon Smith, and I can pretty well predict that he is gone in the next election. He has lost most of the support he had in the state. This means a Democrat most likely will take the seat. Don’t count on picking up seats for the GOP in Oregon.


172 posted on 06/14/2007 9:13:18 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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