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New stainless steel alloy is developed
UPI ^ | 06/20/07

Posted on 06/20/2007 6:49:10 PM PDT by nypokerface

OAK RIDGE, Tenn., June 20 (UPI) -- U.S. scientists have created stainless steel alloys designed to allow increased operating temperatures and efficiency in energy production systems.

The new alloys developed at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory are said to offer superior oxidation resistance compared with conventional stainless steels, without significant increased cost or decreased resistance to creep -- sagging at high temperature.

But U.S. Energy Department scientists said what really sets the proprietary material apart from other stainless steels is its ability to form protective aluminum oxide scales instead of chromium oxide scales.

The combination of creep and oxidation resistance offered by the new alloys previously was available only with nickel-base alloys, which are about five times more costly than the new stainless steels.

The material, which also has potential applications in high-temperature chemical and process industry applications, was reported in the journal Science.


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1 posted on 06/20/2007 6:49:11 PM PDT by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface
Here come the Atlas Shrugged references... Please spare us, this once, you insufferable dorks.
2 posted on 06/20/2007 6:53:52 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Is this stuff greenish-blue? Is it? Is it?


3 posted on 06/20/2007 6:57:27 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: nypokerface

This type of development can have big implications. They play out way under the radar, at least to a mass media that is focussed on the cavortings of the latest sex kitten.


4 posted on 06/20/2007 6:58:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: SteveMcKing

You mean Howard Dork?


5 posted on 06/20/2007 7:00:03 PM PDT by kcar
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To: Steely Tom

Look, they only invented this to divert our attention away from the real story - Paris Hilton in jail. I ain’t falling for it.


6 posted on 06/20/2007 7:00:09 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: SteveMcKing

I was just going to post “Rearden Metal”, but I did not want to aggravate you.......


7 posted on 06/20/2007 7:02:42 PM PDT by exit82 (Trent Lott needs fixing, not talk radio.)
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To: SteveMcKing

Who is John Galt? And what does he have to do with Rearden Steel?


8 posted on 06/20/2007 7:03:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: nypokerface

I bet cat urine will discolor it.


9 posted on 06/20/2007 7:03:10 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: nypokerface
There really should be a US steel industry to capitalize on high-tech boutique steels like this new alloy. The unbelievably stupid refusal of the US producers like USX to modernize and specialize, when the similarly high-cost Europeans have been doing this profitably for 20 years+, is beyond me.

Why do the American steel producers still think they can compete with the Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and Russians by mass producing mass quantities of cheep steal?

10 posted on 06/20/2007 7:04:50 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: nypokerface
Reynolds may want to go back to the drawing boards. Its new 953 stainless steel alloy has just been made obsolete.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 06/20/2007 7:04:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SteveMcKing
I have the formula for transparent aluminum, but I’m keeping it to myself.
12 posted on 06/20/2007 7:08:09 PM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: exit82

I wonder if they can use the stuff to make stronger train tracks...


13 posted on 06/20/2007 7:11:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (What we want to do is stop the Senate amnesty bill in its tracks right now.- Rep.Peter King R-NY)
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To: GOPJ

We need to tell Dagny Taggart.......


14 posted on 06/20/2007 7:12:53 PM PDT by exit82 (Trent Lott needs fixing, not talk radio.)
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To: nypokerface

I can’t wait for the new and improved Ginsu knives!


15 posted on 06/20/2007 7:14:22 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: nypokerface

“creep resistance” Hey Rosie did you get that? Creep was the problem in the twin towers steel.


16 posted on 06/20/2007 7:14:59 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Carbon positive.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

What, and not trade it to build a big whale tank on a Klingon Bird of Prey ?


17 posted on 06/20/2007 7:19:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: nypokerface

This will be a boon to gun making. Want the S&W 50 cal revolver made out of this alloy.


18 posted on 06/20/2007 7:19:42 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: nypokerface

This will be a boon to gun making. Want the S&W 50 cal revolver made out of this alloy.


19 posted on 06/20/2007 7:19:43 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: nypokerface

This will be a boon to gun making. Want the S&W 50 cal revolver made out of this alloy.


20 posted on 06/20/2007 7:19:54 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: nypokerface

Will this save Ronco from bankruptcy by the introduction of a new Ginsu Knife? :)


21 posted on 06/20/2007 7:24:16 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

Transparent ginsu knife set, only 3 easy payments of 13.33.
Myself, I’ll stick with Sandvik 12C27.


22 posted on 06/20/2007 7:24:16 PM PDT by Sender (I know I left my country around here somewhere. Reward if found.)
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To: Weeedley

You can say that again...


23 posted on 06/20/2007 7:26:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: nypokerface
Any word on how it compares to other grades of stainless, as to it's machine-ability?
Stainless is tough to mill. The cutting tools cost like crazy, and don't last very long, either.
[yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody will come along and tell me to buy a CNC machine...ha! i wish!]

How 'bout welding the stuff? TIG? sigh...

If it could better resist undesirable oxidation, be cut or worked a little easier, AND be welded with a buzz-box stick welder, that would be a perfect trifecta.

I give up. ...stand better chances going out and buying lottery tickets...

24 posted on 06/20/2007 7:29:46 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Ramius

Bang times five !!


25 posted on 06/20/2007 7:32:09 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: SteveMcKing

Ayn Rand proved right again!


26 posted on 06/20/2007 7:32:42 PM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: Alter Kaker

“Why do the American steel producers still think they can compete with the Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and Russian...”

Because they’re pricipally competing against the EPA and vociferous “Green” congresscritters...


27 posted on 06/20/2007 7:35:07 PM PDT by mo
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To: ClearCase_guy

Gray-beige. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070620124302.htm


28 posted on 06/20/2007 7:35:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: nypokerface
How is this possible, for the second time in history fire has melted steel????

Somebody call perfesser jenius Rosey!


29 posted on 06/20/2007 7:47:40 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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To: Democrat_media

Who is Ayn Rand ?


30 posted on 06/20/2007 7:55:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Alter Kaker
Why do the American steel producers still think they can compete with the Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and Russians by mass producing mass quantities of cheep steal?

I've been to steel mills in the US, South Korea, and China.

In China, you have hundreds of people earning $0.25/hour doing the work. The floor crawls with people.

In South Korea, you have 1/50th the people, sitting in overhead control rooms operating kilns and blast furnaces remotely, making $10/hour.

In the US, you have hundreds of people earning $30/hour (once benefits are factored in) all over the floor.

The reason for the US situation? I was told by management it was because the unions eliminated the chance for layoffs or modernization to replace workers.

The shift workers on the floor in the US were proud there were as many employees per kiln as there were 50 years ago, and all the jobs were saved...

31 posted on 06/20/2007 7:56:04 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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To: SteveMcKing
you insufferable dorks

Thank you! I haven't laughed all day. Perfect.

32 posted on 06/20/2007 7:59:00 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Old burned-out Marines for Fred.)
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To: SteveMcKing

I’m reading it again right now.


33 posted on 06/20/2007 8:05:19 PM PDT by aspen64 (Insufferable dork)
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To: Alter Kaker
Why do the American steel producers still think they can compete with the Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and Russians by mass producing mass quantities of cheep steal?

UMMM... I believe the word is UNIONS!

34 posted on 06/20/2007 8:06:47 PM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Start here.

http://www.objectivistcenter.org/showcontent.aspx?ct=1322


35 posted on 06/20/2007 8:13:43 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who don't.)
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To: nypokerface

Since China has purchased all of our scrap metal...will we be able to make this stuff?

Maybe I’m silly to worry, but I think of all of the metal drives we had during WWII...I don’t like sending them our “edge.”


36 posted on 06/20/2007 8:16:47 PM PDT by bannie
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The reason for the US situation? I was told by management it was because the unions eliminated the chance for layoffs or modernization to replace workers.

I grew up in Pittsburgh, was there in the 70s and 80s and graduated from Pitt. I was there during the big collapse (implosion) of the steel industry. My take on it: unions killed the US Steel industry plain and simple.

After high school I could've gone to work in the mills. Instead I went to college. 4 years later when I graduated, I started out making less money than I would've been making if I had 4 years experience at union pay scales. I'm not sure that I have ever really caught up - if you factor in benefits, automatic pay increases, vacation, etc.

The unions had a strangle hold on the companies. Tremendous starting hourly rates, vacations, benefits packages, raises. The unions were really trying to in-effect run the companies. You couldn't base pay on performance (or lack thereof), you couldn't hire (non-union) or fire/lay-off. Couldn't change someone's job without a renegotiation, etc. etc.

So yeah, they had a strangle hold on the companies, and were running them, at least the labor side of them. Unfortunately the union "leadership" was short-sighted and power hungry. They ended up strangling the companies and running them right into the ground. I can remember the glow of the big furnaces at night from J&L, US Steel, and others. Now that area is waterfront retail and upscale apartments if I remember correctly.

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for protecting the worker, fair pay for fair work, not letting the company take advantage of anyone etc. But what the workers really had was the union taking advantage of them, using them as leverage to get money/power from the companies. In the end, it would've been far better to be employed at $10/hr rather than unemployed at $20/hr.

37 posted on 06/20/2007 8:26:06 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: HaveHadEnough

Sorry, someone must have found your formula

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123012131


38 posted on 06/20/2007 8:26:38 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I was being sarcastic. She’s not that obscure a figure.


39 posted on 06/20/2007 8:29:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

Sounds like you must have a good grip on the auto industry collapse in MI as well.


40 posted on 06/20/2007 8:48:43 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: quantim

Hmmmmm. Aluminum steel. Haven’t they been making automotive exhaust systems out of this for decades?


41 posted on 06/20/2007 8:52:54 PM PDT by null and void (Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
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To: Steely Tom

“This type of development can have big implications. They play out way under the radar, at least to a mass media that is focussed on the cavortings of the latest sex kitten.”

Who cares?

The really important question is, what news about Paris Hilton will be breaking tomorrow?


42 posted on 06/20/2007 8:56:03 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: kcar
You mean Howard Dork?

You may have Howard Sperm mixed up with Howard the Dork.

43 posted on 06/20/2007 9:01:32 PM PDT by webheart
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To: HereInTheHeartland
This is where those scientist types with the new stainless need a real marketing type. All they need to do is get Paris Hilton to endorse a line of jewelry or flatware or some such made out of this new material. LOL That would get them the media attention, venture capital, etc. Of course, the downside is dealing with a semi-grown up spoiled brat who seems to think her daily duty doesn't stink...
44 posted on 06/20/2007 9:12:22 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: nypokerface

How quickly can we get the Chinese to produce this material?


45 posted on 06/20/2007 9:23:31 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: null and void
Haven’t they been making automotive exhaust systems out of this for decades?

The biggest exhaust system around here are inflated union jobs, save state gubmint. That's a good thing, the bad part is that it takes a few capitalists with each one.

The good news is we will rise again, they will not.

46 posted on 06/20/2007 9:31:16 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

It’s been done, demonstrated, and patented. It is a transparent aluminum oxide, just like Scotty talked about when he grabbed the old Macintosh mouse and held it to his lips all those years ago.

I believe his words were, “Hello, Computer..”


47 posted on 06/20/2007 9:31:47 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Ayn Rand Institute
48 posted on 06/20/2007 9:33:30 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: SteveMcKing
Here come the Atlas Shrugged references... Please spare us, this once, you insufferable dorks.

LOL... As soon as I read the headline, "Reardon Steel" popped into my head.

49 posted on 06/20/2007 9:34:25 PM PDT by Villiany_Inc (bureaucrats + activist judiciary = tyranny)
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To: BlueDragon

Have you seen the price of Inconel lately? Many of the alloys are over $40. / lb.


50 posted on 06/21/2007 2:57:27 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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