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Romney 'unlikely' choice of evangelicals
The Baptist Press ^ | 6/21/2007 | Rachel Waligorski

Posted on 06/25/2007 1:00:31 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691

Romney 'unlikely' choice of evangelicals

Posted on Jun 21, 2007 | by Rachel Waligorski KANSAS CITY, Mo. (BP)--The "overarching and primary concern" why evangelicals likely will not vote for a Mormon for president is the Mormon claim to be the only true Christian church, a Southern Baptist seminary president said during the International Society of Christian Apologetics' annual meeting in Kansas City, Mo.

If Mormons were to call themselves "a new religious movement," that would be one thing, said R. Philip Roberts, president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, which hosted the June 1-2 meeting.

"But I have a very difficult time with the perspective [the Mormon church holds] that, 'We are the true expression of Christianity and all other forms of it are wrong and false and apostasy and heresy,'" Roberts said, paraphrasing the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Roberts, who led a breakout session titled "Mitt Romney: Should Evangelicals Vote for a Mormon President?" during the June 1-2 meeting, is one of Southern Baptists' leading experts on Mormonism and author of a book on the church, "Mormonism Unmasked."

(Excerpt) Read more at bpnews.net ...


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To: Enosh

Baptists spend too much time worrying about other people and what they are doing. Maybe they should pay a little more attention to themselves and work there first. Nothing like having Fred Phelps as a member.


41 posted on 06/25/2007 2:02:18 PM PDT by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne
"Nothing like having Fred Phelps as a member."

All other Baptists reject those freaky nut jobs as not being Baptists in the first place.

Why don't Mormons reject their freaky nut jobs, such as Joseph Smith?

42 posted on 06/25/2007 2:14:41 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Mitt is going to have a more Mormon staff than any other Presidential candidate, just like Clinton had alot of people from Arkansas

Does he have a Mormon staff in Massachussetts? How about Harry Reid?

Personally, I would like to see his hair messed up - at least once - but think he is more than well qualified - if not the best qualified candidate - to be President. I see him as a man who respects 'values' and lives them. Is he perfect? No. . .but then. . .why go there.

I also like Fred Thompson; who has little hair to mess up. . .but am waiting to hear and see how he handles what is sure to be an assault. The kind any Repub expects to get from Demrats. . .but do not want to wait, too much longer. I am hoping underneath his 'comfort zone' that we do not find too much Hollywood.

That said; I want a Repub winner and a good one. With Dems voting in radical Muslims; and Dems who serve radical Muslims; and with the threat of empowerment of the radical Left over our Country. . .we must win this election.

43 posted on 06/25/2007 2:28:06 PM PDT by cricket
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Well then I guess that we can’t vote for Fred. Church of Christ think that they are the true church.

Then there are the Catholic’s, they think that they are the true church.

McCain thinks that he is God, so he is out.

Huckabee is the only Baptist, so I guess we Baptist) are expected to vote for him.


44 posted on 06/25/2007 2:41:06 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: TheSuaveOne

Fred Phelps is NOT a member of a Southern Baptist Church!


45 posted on 06/25/2007 2:45:55 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: cricket
Trust him or not. . .like his hair - or not; believe there are a great many people who take issue with his Faith. So. . .they can excite themselves witih a thrice married or twice married or whatever candidate who gives lip service to a Christian Faith.

Wow! So we have a multiple-choice selection of a multiple-wife candidate vs. a multiple-god candidate like Mitt, eh? (And since the Bible talks about the true church being married to Jesus...see 2 Cor. 11:2; Eph. 5; Rev. 19-21 & other passages...and LDS believe that spouses are forever...I guess Mitt will be two-timing only in the celestial kingdom, eh?...Not this side of the veil)

46 posted on 06/25/2007 2:53:15 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: cricket

There aren’t enough Mormons in Massachusetts to compose a large staff, but the fact is, alot of Mormons see Romney the way we Catholics saw Kennedy, the way the Baptists saw Carter in ‘76. In many parts of the country, you’ll find that what Mormons there are suddenly gravitate to his staff. It’s just the way identity politics works.


47 posted on 06/25/2007 2:54:56 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Ok, it is my opinion that he believes in dominionism.

Your opinion means nothing, let's have some facts.

48 posted on 06/25/2007 3:31:52 PM PDT by xJones
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To: TheSuaveOne
Baptists spend too much time worrying about other people and what they are doing.

And you spend too much time worrying about Baptists. There's a real world out there, go take a look.

49 posted on 06/25/2007 3:34:29 PM PDT by xJones
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To: AzaleaCity5691; Reaganesque

Not necessarily. Romney is running for President, not Preacher. Evangelicals are smart enough to know the difference.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 5:22:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Coldwater Creek

LOL! The argument is quite funny when you put it that way, ain’t it?


51 posted on 06/25/2007 5:35:28 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

But not all FReepers... :^)


52 posted on 06/25/2007 5:37:04 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Before we jump on this, riddle me this:
Is America ready for a Mormon Senate majority leader?
Is America ready for a Mormon chairman of the judiciary committee?
Did you notice that we already have been there?

The theological differences will matter only to that segment of the evangelical community that confuses a vote for President for a vote for pastor. Most evangelicals are thankfully over that paarticular hump and are looking at the more important and fundamental question: Will this candidate share our values and advance the pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-life and pro-national security vision that we as patriotic Americans share?

I am convinced that Christian convictions, while always helpful, are neither necessary nor sufficient for good leadership.

So I close with a final question for the “evagnelicals who won’t vote for Mitt”. ... The race gets down to 2 candidates, one an evangelical Christian the other a Mormon.
You ignore all other considerations because their religious label is a primary decider. Who ho do you vote for,
(a) the evangelical Christian
(b) the Mormon?

If you picked (a), congrats - you just selected Jimmy Carter.


53 posted on 06/25/2007 5:49:16 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: highball

I believe Mitt Romney would make a good President and has already proven himself to be a good leader in a number of arenas (Olympics, Bain Capital, as Governor, etc.) Whether he’s be best choice is up to primary voters, but in no way is he a bad choice.

“Voting against the Democrat agenda whenever possible is a given. In the general election, we can talk about making such a compromise. But now? In the primaries? It is far too early in this process to panic.”

they were talking about the general election. It’s too early to argue about the hypothetical of Romney versus (like Hillary) in the November general election.
But i would agree that if it did come to that, that, indeed, a conservative ‘sitting it out’ because they are not sure about Romney being 100% on our side against any of the liberal Democrats, Hillary, obama etc., is an act of voting Hari kari.


54 posted on 06/25/2007 5:58:24 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: cricket

“Personally, I would like to see his hair messed up - at least once - but think he is more than well qualified - if not the best qualified candidate - to be President. I see him as a man who respects ‘values’ and lives them. Is he perfect? No. . .but then. . .why go there.”

Well said. And I for one am very concerned about this seeking of the ‘perfect’ candidate, when we know that politics, low occupation that it is, rarely has men of ‘perfection’ lining up to take up the job.


55 posted on 06/25/2007 6:00:50 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: Coldwater Creek

I found out only recently that Tancredo is Catholic and attended Catholic High School, as did Rudy.

It’s curious that the liberal whine about the lack of diversity in the GOP field, when in fact it isquite diverse from life backgrounds, denominations, etc.


56 posted on 06/25/2007 6:04:04 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Defending the historical moral foundation of American law and the right of man to acknowledge God is not dominionism.


57 posted on 06/25/2007 6:21:22 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Then there are the Catholic’s, they think KNOW that they are the true church.

There, I fixed it.

58 posted on 06/25/2007 6:26:54 PM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
In reading this thread, I am reminded of this joke:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "stop! don't do it!"

"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

I said, "Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of God!"

I said, "Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!"

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!"

I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

-Emo Phillips

59 posted on 06/25/2007 6:39:44 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney 2008)
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To: colorcountry

Yes, Dominoes and Staples suffered terribly under Romney... *rolls eyes*

Romney did so well because the corporations he helped restructure did well. There’s no money to be made in failure...


60 posted on 06/25/2007 7:01:38 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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