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U.S. Border Fence Protrudes Into Mexico (oops!)
AP via Drudge ^ | 7/29/07 | ALICIA A. CALDWELL

Posted on 06/29/2007 8:55:07 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter

The 1.5-mile barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border was designed to keep cars from illegally crossing into the United States. There's just one problem: It was accidentally built on Mexican soil. Now embarrassed border officials say the mistake could cost the federal government more than $3 million to fix.

The barrier was part of more than 15 miles of border fence built in 2000, stretching from the town of Columbus to an onion farm and cattle ranch.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman said the vertical metal tubes were sunk into the ground and filled with cement along what officials firmly believed was the border. But a routine aerial survey in March revealed that the barrier protrudes into Mexico by 1 to 6 feet.

James Johnson, whose onion farm is in the disputed area, said he thinks his forefathers may have started the confusion in the 19th century by placing a barbed-wire fence south of the border. No one discovered their error, and crews erecting the barrier may have used that fence as a guideline.

"It was a mistake made in the 1800s," Johnson said. "It is very difficult to make a straight line between two points in rugged and mountainous areas that are about two miles apart."

The Mexican government was notified and did what any landowner would do: They sent a note politely insisting that Mexico get its land back.

"Our country will continue insisting for the removal (of the fence) to be done as quickly as possible," the Foreign Relations Department said in a diplomatic missive to Washington.

When the barrier was built in 2000, the project was believed to cost about $500,000 a mile. Estimates to uproot and replace it range from $2.5 million to $3.5 million.

Michael Friel, the spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, said the barrier was "built on what was known to be the international boundary at the time." He acknowledged the method used was "less precise than it is today."

The International Boundary and Water Commission, a joint Mexican-American group that administers the 2,000-mile border, said the border has never changed and is marked every few miles by tall concrete or metal markers.

Sally Spener, a commission spokeswoman in El Paso, said the agency is generally consulted for construction projects to ensure that treaties are followed. The commission is working with the Department of Homeland Security "to develop a standardized protocol" for building fences and barriers.

"We just want to make sure those things are clear now," Spener said.

New Mexico Sen. Jeff Bingaman asked Customs and Border Protection officials to build a new fence on U.S. soil before the old one is torn down.

Bingaman said he was concerned about security issues in Las Chepas, the small Mexican village where most area residents live. New Mexico once sought permission to raze the community because it was known as a popular staging area for illegal immigrants and drug smugglers.

Back at his farm, Johnson said he doesn't understand why the placement of the barriers has become an issue now since his family's fence went unquestioned for more than a century.

"The markers are in the right place, and the fence is crooked," Johnson said. "But for 120-plus years it was agreed upon that that fence was the border."


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurtity; immigrantlist
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1 posted on 06/29/2007 8:55:10 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter

So what’s the problem?


2 posted on 06/29/2007 8:56:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I agree. Make Mexico responsible for maintenance on their part of the fence.


3 posted on 06/29/2007 8:58:50 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Brilliant

We need to charge Mexico for the upkeep and maintenance of the land.


4 posted on 06/29/2007 9:01:01 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Corporate welfare: Socialize the costs- Privatize the profits)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Just put up another and tell them the other is a gift.


5 posted on 06/29/2007 9:03:59 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Straight Vermonter

Then Go Move the fence to “OUR” side,,,and finish the job.


6 posted on 06/29/2007 9:04:10 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Another positive accomplishment by b clinton.
7 posted on 06/29/2007 9:04:20 PM PDT by captnorb
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To: Straight Vermonter
No one discovered their error, and crews erecting the barrier may have used that fence as a guideline.

Tell me...please tell me that no one is that stupid.

8 posted on 06/29/2007 9:05:35 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (To make a conservative angry, lie to them. To make a liberal angry, tell them the truth.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

...Oh. That’s so that our government will need to use - I mean, waste - some more of our hard earned tax dollars to take down the fence, lest the US get sued by Ma’heco.. See, that will offset and delay building the fence for some more time.


9 posted on 06/29/2007 9:10:06 PM PDT by onyx eyes (me and us, together)
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To: Straight Vermonter

So what’s the big deal? Don’t dig it up and move it in... Cut the fence on our side, leave the darn chunk fence isolated on Mexico’s side, and reconnect the two ends on our land.

Illegals are trashing our land, here’s a little something in return.


10 posted on 06/29/2007 9:10:27 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) 9/11: Many of us REFUSE to Forget!!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

“The commission is working with the Department of Homeland Security “to develop a standardized protocol” for building fences and barriers.”

LOL....if all goes as per Sec. Chertoff’s plan, the “standardized protocols” will be completed by 2050.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 9:10:34 PM PDT by indcons (Please call and thank Sens. Sessions, DeMint, and Vitter. They deserve our praise and gratitude.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Annex Mexico now!


12 posted on 06/29/2007 9:13:03 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Brilliant
So what's the problem?

Mexican cattle have TB so it’s necessary that we have at the very least a cattle fence to keep them out. It didn’t work though. Cattle in Curry county NM have recently been diagnosed with TB.

13 posted on 06/29/2007 9:13:30 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Straight Vermonter

How on earth does it cost $500,000 a mile to build the fence? That’s almost $100 per foot.


14 posted on 06/29/2007 9:14:27 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Straight Vermonter

3 million dollars to build a mile of fence? Are they crazy? Give the money to me and I’ll put up a fence and keep the change.


15 posted on 06/29/2007 9:18:00 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Duchess47
"How on earth does it cost $500,000 a mile to build the fence? That’s almost $100 per foot."

Actually at 3 million to relocate the fence, I'm willing to do the work myself, by hand, with a garden trowel.
16 posted on 06/29/2007 9:18:31 PM PDT by ndt
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To: Straight Vermonter
the barrier protrudes into Mexico by 1 to 6 feet.

So just make Mexico an offer to buy the land from them.

Or, trade them for 6 feet somewhere else.

-PJ

17 posted on 06/29/2007 9:19:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Duchess47

That was yesterday. Today it has gone up a bit.


18 posted on 06/29/2007 9:19:27 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: ndt

Where do we submit a bid?


19 posted on 06/29/2007 9:21:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: ndt

I’ll be right there beside you :)


20 posted on 06/29/2007 9:22:13 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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