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Immigration Bill's Demise Not a Reason to Cheer (Arizona Star barf alert)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 7/1/7 | the editors

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:22:00 PM PDT by hardback

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1 posted on 07/01/2007 3:22:04 PM PDT by hardback
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To: hardback; EternalVigilance; indcons; StopAmnestyNow; T.L.Sink; pissant

The defeat of this bill is a positive first step. More needs to be done, obviously, including patriots coming up with a proposal of their own. But this is a good beginning.


2 posted on 07/01/2007 3:24:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

No Am Nasty.


3 posted on 07/01/2007 3:26:02 PM PDT by CAWats
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To: hardback
All this is according to the ARIZONA RED STAR errrr.... DAILY STAR.
4 posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Bashing America and Americans is no way to push an immigration/amnesty agenda.

Americans are tired of being called racists, by racists


5 posted on 07/01/2007 3:34:24 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
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To: hardback
Yes, it was a victory for the status quo, and there's nothing wrong with that. The fact is, the status quo, however bad, is still better than the bill. Sometimes we have to choose the lesser of two evils, and in this case, that would be the status quo.

Now that this horrible bill is dead, it is time to introduce an alternative. While it will be hard, I think there is now a historic opporunity to pass a good enforcement bill. The drubbing the "grand bargainers" took last week was so bad, and the American people's demand for enforcement so overwhelming, that there might be just enough GOP and blue dog legislators to get through an enforcement-only bill. Time will tell.

6 posted on 07/01/2007 3:35:11 PM PDT by curiosity
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Some “expert” on “Meet The Press” today said, with the bill’s failure, it will be impossible for Republicans to ever win Florida in the presidential race and, without Florida, “no arithmatic exists that lets them win the White House.”

So I guess we’re screwed, might as well just kill ourselves, not even field a candidate next time. Oh well.


8 posted on 07/01/2007 3:40:44 PM PDT by SoCalRight
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To: hardback

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

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Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


9 posted on 07/01/2007 3:43:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: hardback
"How many more will die before Congress musters the courage to act on an immigration bill that includes a humane process for regulating the flow of foreign workers into the United States?"

How do they intend to regulate what the RATs and a few RINOS + Bush wanted to entirely de-regulate ? The brain dead left never gets it and never will. As for the deaths of illegals trying to cross the hot desert in the summertime, here's a reminder: for every human act there is a consequence, and there are often bad consequences to risky acts.

10 posted on 07/01/2007 3:47:22 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: hardback
"...this view holds that those here illegally are nothing more than criminals..."

Well, duh?

11 posted on 07/01/2007 3:47:47 PM PDT by weaponeer
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To: SoCalRight
Some “expert” on “Meet The Press” today said, with the bill’s failure, it will be impossible for Republicans to ever win Florida in the presidential race and, without Florida, “no arithmatic exists that lets them win the White House.”

Yes, I saw that. It amazes me how such supposedly "elite" journalists just blindly accept conventional wisdom without critically examining whether it is supported by the facts. National polls of hispanics don't show overwhelming support for amnesty. Some have even showed majority opposition to it.

As to Florida, I seriously doubt Floridian Hispanic voters support this bill in large numbers. If anything, they resent the fact that so many Mexicans who just walked in here would get amnesty, while at the same time the Coast Guard goes around zealously intercepting their freedom-seeking relatives in the Atlantic and sending them back to Castro.

13 posted on 07/01/2007 4:02:05 PM PDT by curiosity
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Doncha just love the new refrain from the OBL? I’ve heard over and over the past few days that “the borders didn’t get any better” with the demise of the bill. No, they did not. But they didn’t get any worse, either, as they most assuredly would have had this travesty of an immigration bill passed.

I’ll take the status quo for now. It is many orders of magnitude better than amnesty.


14 posted on 07/01/2007 4:13:40 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: hardback
Typical MSM elitism:

... Narrow-mindedness won the day. Anyone who sees this as a victory for America is living in a fantasyland.

Yeah, we all know communist reporters aren't narrow-minded and deal in reality every frickin' time. Face it, you got your ass handed to ya. Yes, your medium IS in decline, and there's nothing you can do about except whine some more.

15 posted on 07/01/2007 4:14:54 PM PDT by Baladas
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The center, as defined by countless polls says that the border should be locked down and illegals deported. The bill said that locking down the border should be looked at and illegals should be made legal.

So the fallacy of the editorial is that the center was represented at all.

16 posted on 07/01/2007 4:25:55 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: hardback
Senate's failure to act will not make our borders any safer, or make the 12 million illegal residents go away

So they set up the straw man in the very first sentence. We killed a bad bill, period. Nobody said that killing it would make our borders safer or make the 12(-30)-million illegals go away.
17 posted on 07/01/2007 4:28:27 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: hardback
The really sad thing is all of these editorials, etc, about the immigration legislation never discuss what was actually in the bill. They don’t talk about the fact that the bill really wasn’t totally written, wasn’t ready for prime time. They don’t talk about the way the bill was pushed with no hearings just vote yest and move along.
18 posted on 07/01/2007 4:32:20 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: hardback
By extension, this view holds that those here illegally are nothing more than criminals

Too funny - you need an 'extension' to veiw 'those here ilegally' as 'criminals'. They can't be serious, can they?

19 posted on 07/01/2007 4:39:45 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Congress learned long ago that if at first you don’t succeed try, try again.

A “new” immigration bill will now be introduced to get accomplished by the anti-Americans wanted to accomplish with the first bill.

If that doesn’t work they will try again. I am old enough to remember when Teddy Kennedy first introduced a universal health care bill in the Seventies. Ho many times has a similar bill been defeated? Yet it is the centerpiece for leading Democrat presidential candidates” campaigns.

In the immigration war, Congress is on the illegal aliens” side against Americans. Congress might not have noticed, but we outnumber them. TERM LIMITS!

20 posted on 07/01/2007 4:45:39 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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