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Mosque and State: Taxpayer Dollars, Time Devoted to Islam in Schools
CNS News.com ^ | July 10, 2007 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 07/10/2007 4:37:09 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer

Decisions by public schools and colleges to provide special prayer times or to make other allowances for Muslim students have raised eyebrows -- but not all groups that oppose expressions of religion in the public domain are speaking out.

Some religious liberty advocates -- who have long battled efforts to purge government of religious displays, Bible readings and graduation prayers -- regard the Muslim-accomodation trend as an opportunity that should be seized.

In one instance, the University of Michigan is preparing to spend $25,000 to install two footbaths at its Dearborn campus to accommodate Muslim students wanting to wash their feet before prayers.

Muslims initially were willing to raise the money to cover the cost, but the Michigan chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union -- often a foe of faith in the public square -- said there was no constitutional reason why the university could not fund the project.

Kary Moss, director of the group, told the Detroit Free Press that providing the footbaths was "reasonable" and "an attempt to deal with a problem, not an attempt to make it easier for Muslims to pray."

A Michigan ACLU spokeswoman declined to comment further until a formal opinion is issued on July 14.

Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, a group that frequently sides with the ACLU in such disputes, believes the decision to spend the money on the footbaths singles out one religion for special treatment.

"There are serious constitutional questions when you have non-neutral accommodations available that's not equal to everyone," the group's assistant legal director, Richard Katskee, told Cybercast News Service. "There is no particular religious appearance to footbaths, but they serve no secular use. It's like building a church on campus and saying its okay because everyone is allowed in."

Muslim students on the Dearborn campus defended the decision. Providing the footbaths is not just a religious accommodation, argued Majed Afana, vice president of the Muslim Student Association chapter. It's also a safety measure so students won't fall while washing their feet in conventional sinks, he said.

"Various accommodations are made for students on campus," Afana told Cybercast News Service. "It's something for all the students. It's not a school endorsement of religion. It's available to every student. I heard sports people say they would use it. I heard women say they would use it in the summertime if they wore flip flops."

A university statement calls the footbaths "a reflection of our values of respect, tolerance and safe accommodation of student needs."

University spokesman Terry Gallagher said university space is allotted for other religious student groups, which -- like all other campus clubs -- are eligible to receive university money.

Citing a voluntary freshman survey, he said about 11 percent of the student body at the Dearborn campus is Muslim.

The footbaths in Michigan are similar to one that will be provided for students at the Minneapolis Community and Technical College. Yet at that same college, the administration reportedly banned a campus coffee cart from playing Christmas carols last year and warned faculty and staff to refrain from displays that represent a particular religious holiday during December. The administration did not respond to queries.

"There is clearly a double standard couched in multi-culturalism and diversity, to the detriment of other religions, most especially Christianity," said Brian Rooney, spokesman for the Thomas Moore Law Center, a Christian legal group.

'Accommodate all faiths'

Another school stoking controversy in this area is Carver Elementary in the San Diego Unified School District, which provides students with a 15-minute break each afternoon at what is traditionally a Muslim prayer time.

District spokesman Jack Brandais said students aren't required to pray during this time. Also, other students in the San Diego school district conduct Bible studies and other faith activities during lunch, recess and after school, he added.

"Federal law says that students are allowed to participate in religious practice during non-instructional time," Brandais told Cybercast News Service.

But critics say the problem in this and other cases is that the extra time and space is being allotted for a specific religion, thus favoring it above others.

"The absence of extending that accommodation to kids of other faiths clearly amounts to a state endorsement of religion," Brad Dacus, president of the Sacramento-based Pacific Justice Institute (PJI), a religious liberties legal group, told Cybercast News Service.

Rather than banning Islamic accommodations, however, PJI is urging the district to become a national model by allowing voluntary prayer time for children of all faiths.

"I do see a golden opportunity for the district to provide true tolerance -- not abolition, but true accommodation to allow the spiritual needs of students to be met without amounting the endorsement of any particular faith," Dacus said. "One thing that will not be tolerated is a school district accommodating prayer for one faith, but not for all."

But Katskee of Americans United insists that isn't the solution. The San Diego school prayer time violates the establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution, he insisted.

"To say if Muslims do something unlawful, then Christians and Jews should get to do something unlawful as well is not the way to go about it," Katskee said. "A violation is not solved by extending the violation to others."

(In another California case, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in 2006 ruled in favor of the Byron Union School District after parents sued over a seventh-grade history class that required students to take Muslim names, memorize Muslim prayers and verses from the Koran, and give up something, such as watching TV, to represent fasting. The court ruled that the school, in Contra Costa County, was using the role-playing to educate the students about Islam, not indoctrinating them. The 9th Circuit is the same court that in 2002 declared the words "under God" to be unconstitutional in the Pledge of Allegiance.)

'Logistical requirements'

Like many other schools, L.V. Beckner High School in Richardson, Tex., did not allow students to pray in school. But after a Muslim student sued, it clarified the policy in 2005 and now allows prayer during lunch breaks or in a designated praying area.

That same year, the Cliffside Park, N.J., school district allowed 14-year-old Muslim girl to use her lunch time to pray.

In both cases, the schools -- which had first attempted to prohibit the prayer -- said they were providing non-instructional time permitted by the law.

An allotted prayer time for Muslim students differs from setting aside school time for other prayers because Islam requires prayers at a specific time in the day, said Ibraham Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR).

"Muslims just have logistical requirements that need to be filled," he told Cybercast News Service.

As for the foot-washing facilities, Hooper said Muslims have been criticized before for washing their feet in public sinks. "We get it both ways," he said.

"We get criticism from the right -- from the same people who demand real accommodations for their own religion," Hooper said.

(CNSNews.com correspondent Whitney Stewart contributed to this report.)


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From Gabrielle Cusumano's blog at Townhall.com:"At Carver Elementary School Muslim students have been accommodated in order to worship and pray in a classroom specifically set aside for this purpose during the 1 p.m. to 2 p.m." (posted 26 days ago at:

"In the early 1960s, the U.S. Supreme Court prohibited state sponsorship of prayers in public schools. But now the question has a new slant as some schools have taken steps to accommodate Muslim students’ strict obligation to pray five times a day towards Mecca. "

“Free to pray at recess”

Christians, Jews want equal time for prayer in San Diego school district that accommodates Muslim students obligated to pray five times a day toward Mecca

San Diego public school students may have some time set aside in their school day to invoke Allah's blessings, ask the intercession of the Blessed Virgin, or praise the Lord -- if Christian and Jewish students have religious rights equal to those of Muslims.

In the early 1960s, the U.S. Supreme Court prohibited state sponsorship of prayers in public schools. But now the question has a new slant as some schools have taken steps to accommodate Muslim students’ strict obligation to pray five times a day towards Mecca.

Should schools accommodate the rights of Christians, Jews, and other believers as well? The Pacific Justice Institute, a non-profit legal defense organization specializing in the defense of religious freedom, parental rights, ?and other civil liberties, says the answer is an obvious "Yes."

“At Carver Elementary School Muslim students have been accommodated in order to worship and pray in a classroom specifically set aside for this purpose during the 1 p.m. to 2 p.m. school hour on a daily basis,” noted Pacific Justice attorney Peter Lepiscopo in a June 7 letter to the School Board of the San Diego Unified School District.

Since “the Board is further developing a Daily Prayer Time Policy,” Lepiscopo wrote, “Pacific Justice is requesting not only that Carver Elementary offer the same prayer time for Christians, Jews, and other believers” but also that any policy “should be extended to Grades K through 12 throughout the District.”

In a statement to the press, San Diego Unified School District spokesman Jack Brandeis contended that the Institute’s requests go beyond the accommodations the district is making for Muslim students. At Carver Elementary, Brandeis said, students can choose to go to recess or to pray for about ten minutes during the school day. Students of any faith are free to pray at recess as well.

The District says that going beyond this would put them in violation of the law.

"Voluntary, student-initiated prayer in schools should not be controversial,” Pacific Justice president Brad Dacus contended in a press release. “The federal courts have held that schools do not endorse everything they fail to censor, and this could be a terrific opportunity for a whole community to recognize the importance of faith in our youth -- without government involvement or interference."

Kevin Snider, chief counsel for Pacific Justice Institute, informed California Catholic Daily in a telephone interview that in the last 18 months, the Institute has organized more than a dozen Pastors' Seminars “up and down the state” on a variety of topics, with more meetings scheduled in the next few months.

Snider reports that “Pacific Justice gets three to six dozen participants -- drawn from local ministerial associations -- at a typical morning or luncheon meeting discussing legal options. PJI is fully prepared to train California pastors, priests and rabbis to have a role in encouraging public school students in their faith while staying within constitutional boundaries."

All Credit to California Catholic Daily at: http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle

1 posted on 07/10/2007 4:37:11 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: metmom

Metmom,

Check this outrageous article out.


2 posted on 07/10/2007 4:45:40 PM PDT by indcons (My 2-step solution to stopping terrorism: defuse the bombs; deport the muslims.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Line’s been drawn


3 posted on 07/10/2007 4:50:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: indcons
That same year, the Cliffside Park, N.J., school district allowed 14-year-old Muslim girl to use her lunch time to pray.

Muslims let girls pray?

4 posted on 07/10/2007 4:53:14 PM PDT by xroadie
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Regarding U of M:

I guess it would be Ok then to install Holy Water fountains for the Catholics.

How much longer are we going to bend over for these people who want to slit your children's and grand children's throats?

5 posted on 07/10/2007 4:55:20 PM PDT by Tripleplay
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To: wastedyears

How about a special area on campus for beheadings to accommodate their Islamic religion or an area where they can stone someone to death for infidelity like in Iran?


6 posted on 07/10/2007 5:01:34 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Calpernia; TigersEye

ping


7 posted on 07/10/2007 5:05:08 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
“To say if Muslims do something unlawful, then Christians and Jews should get to do something unlawful as well is not the way to go about it,” Katskee said. “A violation is not solved by extending the violation to others.”

Someone should tell Congress about this so its understood before the next round of legislation on illegal immigration!

8 posted on 07/10/2007 5:12:17 PM PDT by tonysamm
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To: wastedyears

We have two choices here. Give in to the muslims or run them out of the country.


9 posted on 07/10/2007 5:13:11 PM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

I choose the latter.


10 posted on 07/10/2007 5:15:02 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

In that case, I’m sure that the rop will have no problem with CHRISTMAS carols being sung at the CHRISTMAS festival.


11 posted on 07/10/2007 5:18:22 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: indcons
Kary Moss, director of the group, told the Detroit Free Press that providing the footbaths was "reasonable" and "an attempt to deal with a problem, not an attempt to make it easier for Muslims to pray."

It never ceases to amaze me, the bold faced lies liberals will tell to promote their agenda.

12 posted on 07/10/2007 5:25:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Before 9/11, how did Muslim school children pray 5 times a day?


13 posted on 07/10/2007 5:32:49 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: metmom
"It never ceases to amaze me, the bold faced lies liberals will tell to promote their agenda.

They may as well, there's no shortage of people stupid enough to believe them.

14 posted on 07/10/2007 5:38:50 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

For the Michigan School, just wait until some student washes a pig in the footbath. The muslims will demand the student be executed and the footbath destroyed. They will probably also object if too many women use the footbath, but they may place them only in the men’s bathroom.


15 posted on 07/10/2007 6:04:36 PM PDT by TexasAggie65
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To: Tripleplay
I guess it would be Ok then to install Holy Water fountains for the Catholics.

Ha! I like that idea. Then maybe all the muzzies on campus will disappear.

16 posted on 07/10/2007 6:33:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: VR-21

Sad but true.


17 posted on 07/10/2007 6:34:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...
Emphasis:

“To say if Muslims do something unlawful, then Christians and Jews should get to do something unlawful as well is not the way to go about it,” Katskee said. “A violation is not solved by extending the violation to others.”

18 posted on 07/10/2007 6:36:46 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: metmom
metmom,

"It never ceases to amaze me, the bold faced lies liberals will tell to promote their agenda."

You have tagged this exactly. There is a method to this unholy alliance between liberals and Muslims. They both hate western culture based on Christianity that has been the cultural engine of the west for 2000 years.

What we see happening very quickly around us is a repeat of the unholy alliance between the leftist leaders of Europe and Islam about 30 years ago. It was a formal pact that instituted Eurabia in Europe. It was based on their mutual hatred of America.

Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1748594/posts

this wink-wink, nod-nod alliance is understood between those with similar goals. There is no consistency in their behavior unless you understand their goals.

Though much of this is an understood alliance between liberals and Muslims it is important that we understand that at least in Europe it was a formal, agreed alliance. Hidden to be sure but still a formal pact.
19 posted on 07/10/2007 7:04:09 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: Calpernia

Bump.


20 posted on 07/10/2007 8:16:43 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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