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CIA dissenters aided secret prisons report ("helped a European probe")
Reuters / Yahoo News ^ | 07-17-07 | Marcin Grajewski

Posted on 07/17/2007 8:57:58 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Dissident U.S. intelligence officers angry at former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped a European probe uncover details of secret CIA prisons in Europe, the top investigator said on Tuesday.

Swiss Senator Dick Marty, author of a Council of Europe report on the jails, said senior CIA officials disapproved of Rumsfeld's methods in hunting down terrorist suspects, and had agreed to talk to him on condition of anonymity.

"There were huge conflicts between the CIA and Rumsfeld. Many leading figures in the CIA did not accept these methods at all," Marty told European Parliament committees, defending his work against complaints it was based on unnamed sources.

The report issued last month said the Central Intelligence Agency ran secret jails in Poland and Romania, with the complicity of those governments, and transported terrorist suspects across Europe in secret flights.

Poland and Romania have repeatedly denied hosting CIA prisons on their soil.

"People in the CIA felt these things were not consonant with the sort of intelligence work they normally do," Marty said.

He said he had based his findings largely on conversations with "high officials of the CIA (and) highly placed European office-holders, who for different reasons, often honorable reasons, were ready to explain what had happened."

Since he had no power to summon witnesses, subpoena documents or search buildings, he was forced to rely on such evidence, Marty said.

"ADMISSIONS"

"The Americans themselves admitted there were secret prisons, that they abducted people from the streets, that people were handed over to countries like Syria, Yemen, Egypt where they were tortured," he said.

U.S. President George W. Bush acknowledged last year that the CIA had held top al Qaeda suspects in secret overseas detention centers but did not say in which countries.

"The president of United States made a very important statement..., I think we can all expect ... in the near future further admissions," said Marty.

He also said he would not remove name of former Polish and Romanian government officials from the report, although they threatened on Tuesday to take legal action against the senator.

The report said former Polish national security adviser Marek Siwiec and former Romanian Defense Minister Ioan Pascu knew their countries had hosted secret CIA detention centers.

"I have no reason to withdraw his name. I would certainly not be prepared to apologies. He knew exactly what was happening as did his president," Marty told a news conference, referring to Siwiec and former Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski.

"I am not shaking in my shoes," he said of the libel suit that Siwiec vowed to launch in a Polish court unless Marty removed his name from the report within seven days.

Pascu challenged Marty in the hearing to substantiate his allegations or withdraw them, but the Swiss legislator did not respond directly.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; cia; civilwar; doublestandard; espionage; fitzmas; govwatch; marymccarthy; mylroie; plamegate; secretprisons; shadowgovernment; treachery; treason; tycobb
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To: Maelstorm
It turns out one of the well cleared individuals was getting crap all over the place in the restroom and not flushing and many people were leaving trash and sanitary napkins in inappropriate places.

Amazing isn't it? You'd think if you can fill out the paperwork for a clearance you can figure out how to flush the toilet? I feel your pain, everyday...

Cheers,
CSG

41 posted on 07/18/2007 6:06:14 AM PDT by CompSciGuy (Duncan Hunter for 2008 - no flip-floppers or RINO's please...)
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To: jrooney

“Yeah, blame GW for what some liberal CIA traitors did without the consent of his adminstration. You truly are dumb”

Yes I do blame him.. WHY ARE THEY THERE?

The CIA has been undermining this putz since the begining and THEY ARE STILL THERE.

You call me dumb? Uh hello.. did I insult you? Does GWB need you to defend his honor? If you think, then you are dumb just like he is.


42 posted on 07/18/2007 7:17:10 AM PDT by pacelvi
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To: SeafoodGumbo

A ex-CIA guy demostrated just how ignorant the thinking at the CIA is last night on Glenn Beck’s CNN show. I posted a transcript here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1867775/posts

These guys think the Jihad is something like a Marxist movement instead of a religious movement. Unbelievable.


43 posted on 07/18/2007 7:36:27 AM PDT by pacelvi
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To: pacelvi

It’s both. It is a political system. And it squashes out any other religious devotion. You MUST submit to Islam one way or another.


44 posted on 07/18/2007 10:16:58 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: CompSciGuy

I’ve never experienced that kind of thing before. I’d heard complaints about people missing the urinal and stuff like that but never did I dream of being a part of a meeting on the top of a parking garage to discuss personal hygiene. It was a good environment to work in overall but the contrasts were interesting to say the least. I do believe that unless we clean house and make sure the people in our intelligence and security agencies are loyal Americans we will always face an uphill battle against an enemy who offers hidden sabotage and calls it analysis.

This isn’t about Democrat or Republican, it is about making sure that people who want America to win are the only ones with access to the to those secrets that if exposed will compromise our safety and our strength as a nation.


45 posted on 07/18/2007 6:59:04 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: Maelstorm
Yes, I understand, its quite frustrating. I agree, I have an acquaintance who works at an IC agency and still has the nerve to say, “There is no War on Terror, the Bush Administration made it up!” He’s a gov’t worker as well. it wouldn’t be so bad if the guy was some clerk, but he handles TS documents, and can see the “big picture.” I fear there are quite a few of these people in the gov’t and they usually are the leakers. I hope we get a conservative in 2008, it might help things.

Cheers,
CSG

46 posted on 07/19/2007 7:15:25 AM PDT by CompSciGuy (Duncan Hunter for 2008 - no flip-floppers or RINO's please...)
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