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14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster
14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster ^ | July 21, 2007 | Kathy Miller

Posted on 07/22/2007 4:36:02 AM PDT by GFritsch

14 yers ago today, on July 20, 1993, the body of Vincent Walker Foster, Jr. was found in a Virginia park, next to a civil war cannon, with an unidentified revolver lodged in the right hand. Vincent Foster died of a small-caliber gunshot wound to his head.

Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton. On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.

The following happened within weeks of his death. Vince Foster finally files the missing Whitewater tax returns. On July 19, FBI director William Sessions is fired. Clinton personally orders him by phone to turn in his FBI property and leave headquarters.

That evening, Clinton security aide Jerry Parks' wife Jane says she overhears a heated telephone conversation with Vince Foster in which her husband says, "You can't give Hillary those files, they've got my name all over them."

On July 20, Clinton names Louis Freeh as Sessions' successor.

That same day, the FBI raids David Hale's Little Rock office and seizes documents including those relating to Capital-Management.

Just hours after the search warrant authorizing the raid is signed by a federal magistrate in Little Rock, Vince Foster apparently drives to Ft. Marcy Park.

Foster was found dead of an apparent gunshot wound to the head in Ft. Marcy Park. His unoccupied car, a 1989 Honda, was found in the park's parking lot. Several witnesses - before and after the arrival of the park police - have claimed they saw a briefcase in Foster's car.

A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and three independent handwriting experts determined that Foster's suicide note, was a forgery.

The Raid of Vince Foster’s Office While the U.S. Park Police studied the body, Foster's office at the White House was being looted.

Secret Service agent Henry O' Neill watched as Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster's office before the Park Police showed up to seal it, yet the official identification of Vincent Foster's body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM!

Another Secret Serviceman saw Craig Livingston remove items from Vincent Foster's office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster's office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House's Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster's safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special "MIG" technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster's secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster's office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.

The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of Vincent Foster's office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet Reno's Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting outside Foster's office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of Foster's office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster's briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.

The boxes of documents removed from Foster's office by Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, were taken to the private residence area of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.

One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to have originated in Foster's office, turned up unexpectedly in the private quarters of the White House, with Hillary's fingerprints on them.

So, who ordered the office looting?

Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.

The death of Vince Foster is very unsettling. There is an amazing amount of inconsistent information surrounding his death, the investigation and the autopsy. And, of course, his close relationship with Hillary was intriguing. Many books have claimed that the two were lovers for several years.

To date, several unanswered questions still remain. What did the White House know and when did they know it? Another question: If Foster was not identified as a White House official until at least an hour and a half after police arrived, why were police officers associated with an elite federal unit on the scene within 45 minutes? Evidence suggests that White House officials were informed of Foster's death, at least an hour before they claim to have been initially notified.

The FBI never officially investigated the case but simply signed off on the Park Police "probe." The bureau had little choice.

Later, Robert Fiske, selected by Clinton’s counsel Bernie Nussbaum and Janet Reno, quickly confirmed the Park Police probe as a suicide. Yet, no fewer than three of the paramedics on the scene indicated in reports or testimony that the crime scene was consistent with a murder scene, not a suicide.

? A careful FBI microscopic investigation of Foster’s shoes found not a trace of soil or grass stains on them, though he supposedly walked several hundred yards through wooded Fort Marcy Park to where his body was found. [Years later, Starr’s investigation found plenty of soil and grass stains. Rodriguez charged that the shoes were tampered with to produce such "evidence."]

? Foster was found with little blood around his body – and despite claims that he fired the gun into his mouth, practically no blood was found on the front of his shirt.

? Foster was found with a 1913 revolver no one in his family could claim, with two serial numbers, made from the parts of three or more guns. None of Foster’s fingerprints were found on the gun. The bullet that supposedly killed Foster was never found, despite intensive searches.

? The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster's pager had been erased. Critical evidence began to vanish. Many witnesses were harassed. Others were simply ignored. There were even suggestions that the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster's body had been found in his car! The official reports were self-contradictory.

? All of the X-rays taken during the autopsy are missing. Complete crime scene photos don’t exist. The Park Police said all the photos were "accidentally" overexposed. A series of close-up Polaroids, which Favish is suing for, remain.

? A briefcase in the car of Vincent Foster was removed after U.S. Park Police arrived at his death scene. The briefcase, which may have carried important documents, was never listed on official evidence reports compiled by park police who conducted the first investigation into the White House deputy counsel's death.

Hillary Clinton was trying to gain leverage over her husband, possibly in relation to future divorce proceedings. It is possible Mrs. Clinton wanted to get to the bottom of persistent rumours about her husband's philandering before subjecting herself and her daughter to the media glare of a presidential campaign. At the time, Mrs Clinton and Vince Foster were partners at the Rose Law firm.

Did Hillary Clinton have an affair with Little Rock lawyer Vincent Foster? According to retired Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson, "There is no doubt in my mind that there was a long, ongoing sexual relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster."

Patterson, who guarded the Clintons for more than six years, made the new disclosures on the audiotape set "More than Sex: The Secrets of Bill and Hillary Clinton Revealed"

Patterson said that on one occasion, at a birthday party for Hillary Clinton, he saw Foster touch Hillary in private areas of the body twice. Patterson said his belief about Hillary and Vince was formed after years of observation during the frequent meetings between the two, when Bill was out of town, and the stories of other troopers.

Patterson gives eyewitness details of several occasions upon which he saw Vince and Hillary in compromising situations.

On the day of Vince Foster’s death, Patterson said he learned about the death before the Park Police even found Foster’s body and hours before the White House said they were informed. Patterson’s information, corroborated by another trooper, exposes a cover-up bigger than Watergate.

A case arose from an overall conspiracy to obstruct justice in connection with federal investigations into the death of deputy White House counsel Vincent W. Foster.

Patrick Knowlton was in Ft. Marcy Park the afternoon that Vincent Foster died. What Knowlton saw and what happened to him afterwards is one of the most disturbing stories of the whole Clinton saga. You can read the testimony here

Miguel Rodriguez was a prosecutor on the staff of Kenneth Starr. His attempts to uncover the truth in the Vincent Foster death case were repeatedly foiled, and he was the subject of planted stories undermining his credibility and implying that he was unstable. Rodriguez eventually resigned.

After learning of Fosters death, Jane Parks, the wife of Jerry Parks claims that her husband said, "I'm a dead man". Parks had collected detailed data on Clinton's sexual escapades, including pictures and dates. His wife claims federal agents subsequently removed his files and computer, and that Bill Clinton still owed him $81,000.

(Note. Two months later, Jerry Parks is found murdered gangland-style )


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Arkansas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2setsofkeyes; anniversary; arkancide; clintonlegacy; clintons; clintonscandals; coverup; craiglivingstone; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; dragonlady; fortmarcypark; hillaryscandals; murder; mystery; nograssonshoes; phonysuicidenote; suicide; vincefoster
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A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death.

Where's Craig Livingstone today and what is he doing for a living?

This is just one of a pile of events that show the Clintons for what they truly are: criminals! I believe that they ordered the killing, along with a multitude of others, and are black-hearted devoted communists.

1 posted on 07/22/2007 4:36:10 AM PDT by GFritsch
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To: GFritsch

A glimpse of the future under Herself the First.


2 posted on 07/22/2007 4:43:06 AM PDT by Shady
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To: GFritsch
Wow! I can see this all over the news for the next six months. /s
3 posted on 07/22/2007 4:45:10 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: GFritsch

The republican Presidential nominee, whoever he is, should at the very least employ a food taster. Hillary will do anything to achieve the WH.


4 posted on 07/22/2007 4:48:22 AM PDT by hershey
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To: GFritsch

It is truly scary what these people are capable of and what they get away with. A very dark time in our great country’s history.


5 posted on 07/22/2007 4:48:56 AM PDT by Jazzman1 (l)
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To: GFritsch
"Where's Craig Livingstone today and what is he doing for a living?"

Well .. we can rule HILLARY! out ... she never met him.

6 posted on 07/22/2007 4:52:23 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Shady

One cannot dismiss, out of hand, the possibility that Hildebeast is the leading candidate for AntiChrist.


7 posted on 07/22/2007 4:54:28 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Jazzman1
And people wonder how Hitler got so powerful?

The pathetic thing is that the MSM media is unwilling to look at anything that could bring suspicion to the clintons.

My goodness!

8 posted on 07/22/2007 4:59:01 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: GFritsch
Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special "MIG" technical team signed into the White House in the late hours.

The imagery here is just stunning in its criminality...


9 posted on 07/22/2007 5:01:29 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: GFritsch

Wonder what happened to the BARRETT REPORT??? $21M spent and no one has seen this report??


10 posted on 07/22/2007 5:04:57 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Northern Yankee
That is so true. The way the Dems and the MSM are investigating any and everything about the Bush administration makes it even more amazing to me that the Clintons were able to sweep this whole episode under the rug. I still remember seeing a picture at the time of the gun in Vince Foster's hand and his thumb was stuck through the trigger in such an awkward way that it seems impossible that he could have pulled the trigger from that position. If he did indeed commit suicide, there seems to be no way that it could have occurred where the body was found, so at the very least the Clinton’s are guilty of moving (or having the body moved) to another location.
11 posted on 07/22/2007 5:18:58 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: GFritsch

14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster

the headline is a lie.....there is no mystery.....the piaps ordered the hit....

it is more than obvious that vince foster had information on the piaps that would bring down both clintons.....

as the murder was covered up cleansed...the lib/dem/msm has been 100% complicit in the crime....

no mystery...to anyone that did not drink the lib/dem kool aid!!!


12 posted on 07/22/2007 5:22:53 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: GFritsch
“Arkancide” is no mystery
13 posted on 07/22/2007 5:27:50 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: iopscusa
Wonder what happened to the BARRETT REPORT???

It's in a hole

14 posted on 07/22/2007 5:31:37 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: GFritsch

15 posted on 07/22/2007 5:35:05 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: iopscusa

Wonder what happened to the BARRETT REPORT???
______________________________________________________

Should do a utube question for the debate on CNN.

I am sure it would be the first question asked. >sarc<


16 posted on 07/22/2007 5:38:41 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Boycott China)
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To: Popman

Has anyone heard the stories of Hillary and Vince Foster using the Red Apple Inn in Heber Springs as a meeting point?
Somebody there must have known something..


17 posted on 07/22/2007 5:38:54 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: GFritsch; potlatch

18 posted on 07/22/2007 5:42:13 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Northern Yankee

What if a lot of msm journalists know how bad she is.. but also know if they say anything bad about her, their career is likely over.


19 posted on 07/22/2007 5:45:02 AM PDT by ran20
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To: hershey

Think of it, it would mean certain death to Obama if he were elected Pres by the Dems and she were his VP.


20 posted on 07/22/2007 5:46:10 AM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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To: ran20
Your career or your life - you make the call.

And...I've always thought it was all those secured FBI files that made Senators do things they normally wouldn't have on behalf of whatever the Clintons wanted.

21 posted on 07/22/2007 5:49:28 AM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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To: xcamel

The People President Clinton Didn’t Have to Pardon...

Because They’re All Dead-

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm


22 posted on 07/22/2007 5:49:43 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: GFritsch
... he saw Foster touch Hillary in private areas of the body twice.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit ...

23 posted on 07/22/2007 5:51:51 AM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: Jazzman1; GFritsch
A very dark time in our great country’s history.

The fact that the most disgusting, despicable woman in the history of The United States of America is running for the presidency is testament.

Thanks for posting.

24 posted on 07/22/2007 5:53:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: GFritsch
“This is just one of a pile of events that show the Clintons for what they truly are: criminals!”

Which clearly makes both of them perfect Demoncratic candidates for the Presidency.

25 posted on 07/22/2007 5:57:06 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: GFritsch
This refresher course on the Clinton crime machine is a chilling reminder of what this country is about to face if the GOP can't get their collective heads out of their asses and defeat Hillary.

The Vince Foster saga is just one of many Clinton criminal acts and who knows how many criminal acts never saw the light of day?

The Foster crime is almost in plain sight and it still gets buried by the MSM and DC cowards are covering their own,

The dems love to justify the Clinton crime wave called his Presidency, as political acts rather than criminal acts all the while they accuse Bush of criminal acts well with in his preview as CIC and head of the Executive branch

It will be very interesting if she really gets into the Oval Office and how quickly she grabs power above and beyond her office by Executive decree.

My one knock against Bush besides the his immigration stand is his abuse of the Executive decree setting precedent for who ever follows in his footsteps.

Hillary and the dems can justify about anything now by decree by simply pointing out they are just following in Bush footsteps

26 posted on 07/22/2007 5:57:41 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: NordP
Obama if he were elected Pres by the Dems and she were his VP.

I can see it now.. angry white man kills first black president. Investigation into assasination cancelled by Herself, with no mention in papers or msm.

27 posted on 07/22/2007 5:58:32 AM PDT by ran20
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To: GFritsch

ping for later reading. Very interesting.


28 posted on 07/22/2007 5:59:30 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: george76

Thanks for the link, lots of names.. people who knew too much or opponents of the clintons have an uncanny habit of turning up dead.


29 posted on 07/22/2007 6:00:37 AM PDT by ran20
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To: Popman

I remember asking on another message board when the patriot act came in.. are you guys comfortable with Hillary having these powers? The answer was, well we have to make sure she doesn’t win. I thought then and think now, ruh oh!


30 posted on 07/22/2007 6:03:12 AM PDT by ran20
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To: T'wit

From the foster home...

Ping

8mm


31 posted on 07/22/2007 6:08:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: george76

I had that one in my old bookmarks


32 posted on 07/22/2007 6:09:01 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: ran20
...patriot act came in.. are you guys comfortable with Hillary having these powers?

Considering, I believe Hillary was the driving force behind the Waco Massacre, just imagine what will happen when she has the legal legitimate powers based on the patriot act with the political backing of dems and support of the MSM.

What happened at Waco was an illegal abuse of government and military power, now she will be only a few steps away from doing something similar with the support of the American people, well the liberal ones at least.

33 posted on 07/22/2007 6:14:56 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: GFritsch

The only facts I researched on Foster was the gun stuff and this article has it all wrong. The gun was Vince Foster’s father’s revolver.

There as also a controversy involving a “silver” gun and a “black” gun. That was easily disputed since there was mention of two guns. The gun found at Fort Macy and a “silver” gun that Mrs. Foster noticed being packed as Mr. Foster was leaving for D.C.


34 posted on 07/22/2007 6:22:42 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: srmorton

It’s possible. The thumb is inserted into the trigger guard and the rest of the fingers hold the grip. Anything involving the firearm points to a suicide. I haven’t researched anything else involving this case other than the firearm and the ballistics.


35 posted on 07/22/2007 6:26:35 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: GFritsch

ping for later read


36 posted on 07/22/2007 6:31:31 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Oldexpat

Would you talk if you did?


37 posted on 07/22/2007 6:31:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Hey, he tried to kill my Dad!" Yea that's it.)
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To: GFritsch
I don't routinely wear a tinfoil hat so I do not subscribe to Vince Foster was murdered by Hillary conspiracy theories. Foster likely committed suicide, but his body was probably moved to save the Clinton's embarrassment and evidence was suppressed to hide where and under what circumstances that suicide occurred.

What is undoubtedly true is that Foster was a Clinton insider from the Arkansas days and knew or had hard evidence of the Clinton's shady deals with Whitewater etc. Moving his body to the obscure park also gave Clinton operatives time to scour Foster's office and remove all incriminating evidence.

As for Foster's reported dalliance with Hillary, I would conclude this was possibly true. Bill's well documented stormy relationship with Hillary and frequent affairs would certainly give credence to Hillary looking good times elsewhere. The Clinton's are both products of the radical 1970s when free love was accepted behavior and I'm sure Hillary in her younger days had her share of affairs, even when living with Bill.

38 posted on 07/22/2007 6:40:06 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: knarf

Someone must know Craig Livingston’s whereabouts. Can you imagine what info he must be hiding under threat from the Beast?


39 posted on 07/22/2007 6:40:30 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Shooter 2.5; srmorton

40 posted on 07/22/2007 6:46:50 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: The Great RJ

“Moving his body to the obscure park also gave Clinton operatives time to scour Foster’s office and remove all incriminating evidence.”

Nope, Hillary’s assistant had to go back for 2 more boxes of files, I forget her assistant’s name, and the boxes probally
1. contained that ‘missing’ billing record from ‘Rose Law Firm’,
2. Check Sandy Berger’s socks for 2 boxes of files..


41 posted on 07/22/2007 6:50:48 AM PDT by Son House (>Every Democrat plan leaves Troops in Iraq, they need to answer for that.<)
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To: Son House

Secret Service agent Henry O’ Neill watched as Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster’s office before the Park Police showed up to seal it,

Margaret Williams


42 posted on 07/22/2007 6:53:51 AM PDT by Son House (>Every Democrat plan leaves Troops in Iraq, they need to answer for that.<)
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To: Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT; Velveeta

Ping.


43 posted on 07/22/2007 6:57:16 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: Jazzman1

Yes, they get away with it all because AR certified them as trustworthy, and you know how the American people believe in Arkansans.


44 posted on 07/22/2007 7:04:32 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: 8mmMauser
Here's an unreported story for you. Hillary knew in advance. She was in California with a busy week ahead to pitch her HillaryHealth plan at all sorts of meetings. Suddenly, Monday, she cancelled out of everything. She must have received word that Foster would go down. I don't know what excuse she made but she broke all her appointments and headed east. She was on a flight to Little Rock the next day when Foster's body was found. Within hours she phoned orders to her own staffers to ransack the files in Foster's White House office and cart off boxes off them (which have never been seen since). This was the plainest display of obstruction of justice, but nobody dared call her on it. She knew he was going to die. She evidently did nothing to stop it, even though by solid accounts, he was her lover.
45 posted on 07/22/2007 7:15:40 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals are incapable of admitting a truth until they've lied about conservatives -- "for balance.")
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To: Deo volente

That is an odd picture, the gun was in his right hand. I seem to remember something about Vince being left handed.


46 posted on 07/22/2007 7:17:56 AM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: GFritsch
Where's Craig Livingstone today and what is he doing for a living?

Going back two years or so, I read an article that claimed he was driving a limo for a firm in the Washington area.

47 posted on 07/22/2007 7:20:36 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Alamo-Girl
Ping a ling...

5.56mm

48 posted on 07/22/2007 7:23:31 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Shooter 2.5
I remember reading about gunshot wounds to the head and the huge amounts of blood they produce in suicide victims. This is because the heart continues to pump for a while even after being shot in the head, and therefore a continued pressure forcing out the blood. The fact that there was very little blood at the Foster crime scene in Marcy Park was very suspicious. This is complicated because his body was found with his head on a small slope and lower than his feet.

The way I remember how forensics people broke this down it went something like this:

a) His heart had stopped beating before he was shot. This would then be a coverup of some other method of death.

b) He was shot in the head, but his body was cleaned and moved later to Marcy Park.

Whatever happened, there was an obvious coverup that was aided by the MSM in no outcry, the FBI on all levels for not raising the roof, all of the elected government officials for not raising the roof, and the general public for not being interested in keeping our leaders in check.

The fact that the Republicans had control of the WH and Congress and has apparently decided that all of Clinton’s scandals are not worth looking into anymore, shows a real bad tolerance level for the growth of evil.

I’m reminded of the saying...”The only thing evil needs to succeed, is for good people to do nothing.” I think when good people do nothing, they become tainted themselves by aiding and abetting evil. Very sad and disturbing.

49 posted on 07/22/2007 7:24:26 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: nw_arizona_granny

bump


50 posted on 07/22/2007 7:25:43 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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