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We are gouging oil companies – and ourselves
Ayn Rand Institute via High Springs Herald ^ | July 23, 2007 | David Holcberg

Posted on 07/23/2007 6:17:52 AM PDT by Daffynition

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To: BlackbirdSST

You are probably paying over $30 a gallon for beer, which is somehow justified, and the beverage companies make approximately 40% profit margin, and that’s OK, (great, really, because I own stock in a few), but $3 a gallon gas made by a company earning 8-10% is gouging?

One again, your logic is not coming through very clearly.

Investing is smart money management.


181 posted on 07/27/2007 12:31:46 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger
Oh, you are an alcoholic.

On the way out the door to see this slander of my character. Tsk tsk. The viking kitties are warming up troll. I'll ask, just to see if you have ANY integrity, to post an apology. I'll check back in shortly, and just for the record, I'm going to have a drink in honor of my recently passed wife, the first drink I've had in years, hence my "walking" instead of driving. Wrap your feeble mind around that, troll. See what I mean about giving you enough rope? It's a tried and proven method here in FReeperville. You lefty's fall for it every time. Blackbird.

182 posted on 07/27/2007 12:35:02 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: BlackbirdSST

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183 posted on 07/27/2007 12:47:03 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger; BlackbirdSST

184 posted on 07/28/2007 9:29:04 AM PDT by agent_delta (Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?)
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To: TommyDale
I am sick and tired of the oil companies making obscene profits at the expense of working people.

They make less rate of return on their investment than most other industries. The numbers seem huge because the companies are huge.

All you're saying is that you're philosophically opposed to huge companies which is irrational.

185 posted on 07/28/2007 9:47:59 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: agent_delta

C&B, b!


186 posted on 07/28/2007 10:14:46 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Dog Gone

If they need to make a bigger margin, then maybe they should go into other products, with higher returns. The increase in huge profits are directly proportional to the higher pump price.


187 posted on 07/28/2007 10:28:40 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TommyDale

Yes, and huge losses are also proportional to that. The oil companies have plenty of them over the past 20 years.

You can’t be seriously suggesting that they get out of the oil business and into the bottled water business.

The mentality of some here that profits are bad is just marxist. Reconsider what you’re saying. Big companies SHOULD make big profits. Otherwise there is something wrong with them.

If you don’t like the concept of profits, there are a few, very few, countries on the planet where that’s the official policy.


188 posted on 07/28/2007 10:43:04 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Clam Digger

FierceAllegiance, when you come to the point that you can’t even spell out what you want to say because it is all foulmouthed, perhaps you should refrain from posting at all.


189 posted on 07/28/2007 10:44:24 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

I am not fierce allegiance, and wtfayta?

Have a nice day. ho. ho. ho.


190 posted on 07/28/2007 12:20:28 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: BlackbirdSST
Bad form and a violation of forum rules, but noob trolls are noted for that. My prediction, you won't be with US much longer. Blackbird.

This is also against forum rules, but it's ok if you do it, right?

191 posted on 07/28/2007 1:23:22 PM PDT by trussell (Prayer is good for the soul)
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To: Clam Digger

Oops...missed pinging you. Look at my reply immediately above this one.


192 posted on 07/28/2007 1:24:03 PM PDT by trussell (Prayer is good for the soul)
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To: TommyDale

FALSE™ @ 79.


193 posted on 07/28/2007 1:46:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama
Oops, sorry TommyDale. I simply wanted to alert my friends to what the Green Party has to say on this subject.
194 posted on 07/28/2007 1:47:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Clam Digger

Copper. Ugh. [shiver down spine]


195 posted on 07/28/2007 1:51:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Has the Green Party ever met an industry they didn't hate and want to nationalize?

I understand using their site for the purpose of ridicule, but using them on this forum as a legitimate source for debate.....well, that I don't understand.

196 posted on 07/28/2007 1:59:28 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
It's just the simple problem of Googling for information that supports your position without checking the source. Not really a violation of debating rules per se, but if I ever did it I'd be so mortified that I'd probably ask Jim Robinson to retire my account.
197 posted on 07/28/2007 2:03:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

If you claim it is false, prove it.


198 posted on 07/28/2007 4:02:47 PM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: SAJ

I will second that. I have a friend who is an engineer at the BP Texas City refinery and he has complained for years about the lackadaisical management attitude towards maintenance and equipment reliability. They prefer to skimp on maintenance and then place blame on the engineering staff.

On the other hand take Exxon-Mobil. Before the merger, both had top-notch staffs at all refineries, especially Exxon. They never skimped on maintenance and bought top quality equipment. Several Exxon engineers were marketed by the company to teach equipment reliability to the rest of the industry and even other capital intensive industries, like electric utilities. They are the best are it shows as theri refineries rarely have big problems.


199 posted on 07/28/2007 4:09:38 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: TommyDale

Your ignorance is simply amazing and apalling at the same time. You are using Public Citizen as a source for your ‘facts’ on FR????? That’s Socialist front organization. It’s a political group disguised as a non-profit’ consumer advocate” group. I trust NOTHING they put out as facts, as they are consistently anti-capitalist.


200 posted on 07/28/2007 4:21:20 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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