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Workers are told to shape up or pay up
LA Times ^ | 29 July 2007 | Daniel Costello

Posted on 07/29/2007 10:08:11 AM PDT by BGHater

To hold down medical costs, some firms are penalizing workers who are overweight or don't meet health guidelines.

Looking for new ways to trim the fat and boost workers' health, some employers are starting to make overweight employees pay if they don't slim down.

Others, citing growing medical costs tied to obesity, are offering fit workers lucrative incentives that shave thousands of dollars a year off healthcare premiums.

In one of the boldest moves yet, an Indiana-based hospital chain last month said it decided on the stick rather than the carrot. Starting in 2009, Clarian Health Partners will charge employees as much as $30 every two weeks unless they meet weight, cholesterol and blood-pressure guidelines that the company deems healthy.

"At first, I was mad when I thought I would be charged $30 for being overweight," said Courtney Jackson, 28, a customer service representative at Clarian. "But when I found out it was going to be broken into segments — like just $10 for being overweight — it sounded better."

Jackson said she was going to try to slim down before the plan took effect. "If I still have weight to lose when it starts," she said, "I'll deserve to pay the $10."

Employers are getting serious about penalizing workers "because they've run out of other options" said Joe Marlowe, senior vice president at Aon Consulting, a national benefits consulting firm.

Locally, the Los Angeles Unified School District, which has 90,000 employees, is researching financial incentives and disincentives to help bring down healthcare costs.

UnitedHealthcare, a nationwide insurer, introduced a plan this month that, for a typical family, includes a $5,000 yearly deductible that can be reduced to $1,000 if an employee isn't obese and doesn't smoke.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fat; freedomofcontract; health; healthcare; jobs; obesity; workers; workplace
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Check Yo self.

1 posted on 07/29/2007 10:08:16 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

ping


2 posted on 07/29/2007 10:13:17 AM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: BGHater

That chart would be better labelled, “Determining Obesity TODAY.”

The standards keep changing according to prevailing fashion.


3 posted on 07/29/2007 10:14:38 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

Many people that are fit, still fall into the overweight chart. I just checked my husband’s weight/height ratio and he would be listed as overweight, yet he exercises everyday and doesn’t have an inch of fat on him. Muscle weighs more than fat, so a well muscled person will appear to be overweight according to that chart.


4 posted on 07/29/2007 10:17:21 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: BGHater

Here comes the fat patrol. Next they’ll put video monitors in breakrooms to check what you’re eating.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 10:17:38 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: BGHater

Hmmmmm, and if the weight gain is tied to medications that you are required to take for other medical conditions???

I see a lawsuit in the making.


6 posted on 07/29/2007 10:20:40 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: LaineyDee

Next: monitoring your blood pressure over the Internet as you work...

Employees to get an online checkup
Care provider, EMC will test a program to cut health costs

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/03/03/employees_to_get_an_online_checkup/


7 posted on 07/29/2007 10:29:24 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: BGHater
The chart must be for pygmies. I start getting under 180 pounds at 5' 9" and get light headed when I stand up. Make you a deal, bet I can kick the wimp's ass that designed this chart, and I'm over 50!

As far as where I work, if they don't like the money I make them, please get rid of me. I'll go to work for the competition to help steal every bid possible from where I just came from!
8 posted on 07/29/2007 10:29:27 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: BGHater

All of these things are about control.

I wonder if this is still the USA?

Land of the free, hardly.


9 posted on 07/29/2007 10:33:14 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: BGHater
That chart is nonsense. It doesn’t account for body fat vs muscle and heavy bones.
10 posted on 07/29/2007 10:34:05 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: BGHater

hahahaha! This is for all the fat people who thought it would be a good idea if insurance companies charged workers who smoke more in premiums.


11 posted on 07/29/2007 10:35:35 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: BGHater

I’m curious, if an employee is a male active homosexual will he be told to ‘change his lifestyle’ or risk losing his insurance? The chances of his contracting AIDS is likely just as high as any fat person developing a serious illness.


12 posted on 07/29/2007 10:36:12 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BGHater
Looking for new ways to trim the fat and boost workers' health, some employers are starting to make overweight employees pay if they don't slim down.

Just recently I was in a hospital that is big on heart and lung health. Their big bug-a-boo is of course smoking but their techs and some nurses are anywhere from 20, 40, to 50 pounds or more over weight, I never saw as many obese people in one place...another fault is their hair is often long and not pulled back leaving it hanging into where a wound is or into the patients food......This article is long over due. The next time you are at a Mall, count the fit people you see……you will be surprised at how few there are.

13 posted on 07/29/2007 10:37:45 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: BGHater

Charging them if they don’t meet BP and cholesterol goals? Not everyone can keep those low, even with meds, even at a normal weight.

What’s next, cancer control goals?

Mrs VS


14 posted on 07/29/2007 10:40:25 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: yoe
On a side topic. I never see fit food like Cliff bar wrappers and such as litter on the ground.

I usually see Fast food wrappers and such but not fit type food wrappers. Probably just only the amount of fast food places around but wonder if people who take good care of their body also don’t litter as much.

15 posted on 07/29/2007 10:43:12 AM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: BGHater

It would be better to set the rate based on a high risk class, and offer discounts for (subscriber controllable) risk reducing behaviors, like smoking cessation, weight optimization (anorexics are far riskier than overweight individuals), and body mass index optimization (circulatory system risk reduction).

That would turn a “stick” into a “carrot”. Those who feel excessively ‘managed’ by such a program should opt out of the group insurance and either “go bare” or buy a large deductible personal policy to cover catastrophic risk. Those who are otherwise un-insurable can make preparations for their (probable) early departure from this life. Or they can vote for politicians who will impose “universal health care” and then ration care with waiting lines, which will ultimately produce the same results for those who are uninsurable risks: early death.

“So teach us to number our days, that we might gain a heart of wisdom.” Psalm 90:12


16 posted on 07/29/2007 10:43:25 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: freeangel
hahahaha! This is for all the fat people who thought it would be a good idea if insurance companies charged workers who smoke more in premiums.

ROFL!! I love it!

17 posted on 07/29/2007 10:47:11 AM PDT by Dianna
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I can almost hear the trial lawyers cheering on this one... Any takers on how long till there's a law suit?

Mark

18 posted on 07/29/2007 10:50:15 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: BGHater
Probably important to remember how this all came about.

Back in the good ole days companies searched desparately for ways to compensate people without increasing their salaries.

Enter the corporate healthcare premium. With their large group purchasing power, they could insure their workers at far less cost than to give them all a raise.

So dental and medical became the byword for a good job. (The pay ain't so great, but at least I have dental and medical)

Now, after the inevitable has occurred and costs balloon in all directions, they seek a new way to reduce or eliminate them.

Welcome to the wonderful world of ersatz prosperity.

Best regards,

19 posted on 07/29/2007 10:55:27 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Issaquahking
The chart must be for pygmies. I start getting under 180 pounds at 5' 9" and get light headed when I stand up. Make you a deal, bet I can kick the wimp's ass that designed this chart, and I'm over 50!

I know what you mean... At 6'4, the chart has 185# as "healthy." Let me tell you, the last time I was at 185, my Dr was seriously thinking about hospitalizing me: I had a terrible flare-up in Crohns disease in my esophagus, and was barely able to eat or drink for nearly 3 weeks. In order to even drink a glass of water, I needed to take a few large gulps of "viscous lidocane," a topical anesthetic, and even then, it was terribly painful. My "normal," healthy weight was 220#, and at 185, my ribs and hip bones were quite pronounced.

Mark

20 posted on 07/29/2007 10:56:31 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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