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Breaking: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis
KSTP TV 5/ME | 8/1/07 | Me

Posted on 08/01/2007 4:28:27 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

Just turned on the news. 35W bridge collapsed in the Mississippi River. Cars, trucks, semis.....

Fires burning, tanker trucks, at least one school bus, more than ten cars......

Just now breaking.......


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 35w; breaking; bridge; bridgecollapse; bridges; btld; collapse; corrosion; engineering; infrastructure; jihad; minneapolis; mosques; mothman; prayerforminnesotans; rust; slownewsday; terroristattack; transportation; twincitiescell
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To: finnman69

BTW, the Kansas City Hyatt bridge was a suspended walkway inside the Hyatt Regency Hotel. Same reason for collapse as for this bridge in Minnesota. OVERLOADED.


1,461 posted on 08/01/2007 8:21:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (It's turtles all the way down.)
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To: I_Publius
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1,462 posted on 08/01/2007 8:21:30 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: captjanaway

One of the local reporters said the FBI is onsite and so are bomb sniffing dogs. I assume they are ruling things out.


1,463 posted on 08/01/2007 8:21:39 PM PDT by Queen of Excelsior
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To: jeffers

Hey,,,How much SALT is used on that bridge in the winter ??...


1,464 posted on 08/01/2007 8:21:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Hunble

Can I say that I’m amazed at the high level of response from the emegency personnel and nearby citizenry in Minneapolis?... great work!


1,465 posted on 08/01/2007 8:22:02 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: UCANSEE2
The bridge next to it has two piers in the water. That is where they are getting confused. I have looked at it on VirtualEarth and the KTSP live feed. Haste makes waste (and fools).

Yeah - we've looked at the actual footage on TV, and they aren't in the water, they're on a big levy... pictures can be deceiving, and it doesn't make a bit of difference to me.

1,466 posted on 08/01/2007 8:22:16 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: editor-surveyor
But wasn't the bridge widened? That might have resulted in a deep reduction in safety factor (to 0.9?).

If it was widened without increased strength, then that is possible. But the engineers would never let it get to a low value (lower than 2.0). I still think it is much more likely that corrosion, fatigue, and/or construction work probably killed this bridge. The photos are bad right now but I'm curious how the collapse progressed and where it started. That is the most important question that needs to be answered before we can determine the cause. The high temperature (in the 90s) is only helpful in this discussion so far as it makes brittle failure very unlikely (though it would be unlikely in any case since the engineers designed the bridge to survive Minnesota winters).

1,467 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:07 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

OUCH

God have mercy.

Causes?


1,468 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:24 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

MN official: Sadly, seven now confirmed dead. More sadness, they expect that number to go up.


1,469 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:33 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Strategerist

Except this bridge does not have any piers in the water.


1,470 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (It's turtles all the way down.)
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To: yield 2 the right

I hope he is pro America and does not have any supportive leadings for Islamic jihadists

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At this time in our lives, there is no excuse to put it to chance.


1,471 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:57 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Forfeiture of liberty for alleged security undermines our credibility as a free nation.)
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To: Poser

Dr. Clinton. Guess why I remember his name?


1,472 posted on 08/01/2007 8:25:04 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: RDTF

Think bridge security will be hightened over the next few days?


1,473 posted on 08/01/2007 8:25:50 PM PDT by budwiesest (Democrat dilema: First Black or Second Clinton?)
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To: advance_copy

Sadly the number will go up - and at the same time there will be many survivor stories that will inspire us all


1,474 posted on 08/01/2007 8:26:17 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Poser

OK....You win.

Osama was in the Twin Towns tonight and picked this bridge to make a statement.

Happy?


1,475 posted on 08/01/2007 8:26:44 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: cajungirl
Here is the next Interstate bridge that will probably fall into the water. 
The old I-10 bridge in Lake Charles, LA

This bridge is old, built in the 50s, is steep, shakes, they cannot
keep light bulbs burning because the vibration  burns out the bulbs,
scary to cross, is rusted, has way more traffic than it was designed
for, and was weaken by hurricane Rita. 
 


1,476 posted on 08/01/2007 8:27:14 PM PDT by Ramtek57
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To: budwiesest

I don’t know how you heighten bridge security. There are so many bridges with such heavy traffic it seems an impossible task.


1,477 posted on 08/01/2007 8:27:15 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: burzum

From the pictures on TV it looked like it might have been an upper chord joint, right over the east support bent that failed. The main span appeared to have dropped intact, and broken on impact.


1,478 posted on 08/01/2007 8:28:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: UCANSEE2

That was a different issue in a sense. The original design wasn’t used and a “modified” design was used to support the two walkways. The modified design was far less structurally sound, though it should be noted the original design wasn’t sound itself - and it wouldn’t have supported that load.


1,479 posted on 08/01/2007 8:28:12 PM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Liberal KARE-11 ( NBC ) is already pushing the idea that we need to raise the gas tax in Minnesota because it hasn’t been raised in years. They are clearly pushing the idea that if we would have raised the taxes on gasoline this bridge wouldn’t have collapsed.
1,480 posted on 08/01/2007 8:28:23 PM PDT by Perchant
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