Posted on 08/02/2007 10:03:39 AM PDT by Serious Capitalist
BENTONVILLE -- The father of a 17-year-old girl found his daughter's boyfriend hiding inside her bedroom closet Tuesday, beat him bloody with a pool stick, then left the room to fetch a gun. The daughter and boyfriend blocked the door with a dresser, so the father shot through the closed door, hitting the boyfriend in the back and paralyzing him, police said.
George David Reed, 48, posted a $150,000 bond and was freed from jail Wednesday afternoon as Michael Austin Guzman, 19, underwent surgery to treat a bullet lodged in his spinal cord.
Three of Guzman's vertebrae are fractured and doctors don't expect him to regain feeling or mobility below his waist, according to a probable cause affidavit released Wednesday after Reed's bond hearing. He was still in surgery Wednesday evening in Joplin's Freeman Health System, according to an intensive care nurse.
Benton County Circuit Judge Xollie Duncan set the bond Wednesday based on a request from Chief Deputy Prosecutor Shane Wilkinson. Reed was arrested on suspicion of a felony terroristic act, the most serious type of felony aside from capital murder, punishable by up to life in prison. He was also arrested on a charge of felony first-degree battery.
Defense attorney W.H. Taylor, who spent the morning consulting with his client at the jail, did not object to the bond. Reed is to be arraigned Sept. 10 before Circuit Judge David Clinger.
Taylor said that Reed has three children and lives with his wife, Sharon, at 13569 Vaughn Road near Highfill. Reed has been in Northwest Arkansas since 1962, owns a farm and rental properties, and has operated a moving and storage business since 1983.
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So how would YOU react catching a 19yo boy you have warned in your daughter's bedroom with the sheets messy and her clothes disarrayed?
You going to offer him a beer and say thanks for F#$%ing my daughter?
My daughters are 2, and my wife and I are already instilling the virtues of a life of service to the Holy Roman Catholic Church. ;)
Watch out, dmz. It's a trick question.
You can be arrested for serving a minor alcohol.
So how would YOU react catching a 19yo boy you have warned in your daughter’s bedroom with the sheets messy and her clothes disarrayed?
You going to offer him a beer and say thanks for F#$%ing my daughter?
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In your binary world I guess it’s either shoot blindly to kill/maim/paralyze or offer the guy a beer. Wow. That’s crazy with a capital K.
I have a bit of temper admittedly, but beating with a pool cue and shooting blindly through a door behind which my daughter is standing would NOT likely be my approach.
You are so right on that. I have seen plenty of people with out of control teens and no recourse. For example, in some places the parents can be put in the pokey if their 15 yo refuses to go to school. You can't make a 15 yo do something they refuse to do. And you can't kick them out [legally].
Teenage children do what we tell them to do primarily because we get enough respect from them to do so. A little leverage comes from the carrot and stick. But all in all, they do it because they have enough respect for us that they are willing to.
Teenage children do what we tell them to do primarily because we get enough respect from them to do so. A little leverage comes from the carrot and stick. But all in all, they do it because they have enough respect for us that they are willing to.
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Very true. And teaching one to respect one’s parents had better start pretty damn early in the kid’s life. You can’t roll over and play dead for the first 15 years and then hope that they’ll respect you after that.
In my mind premeditiation implies planning of a crime before its commission. Running to get a gun to use against an assailant/tresspasser doesn’t seem like planning prior to commission.
I guess you must have no feeling from the neck up to make that comment.
I think that breaking the 19 year old’s nose with a punch would have been sufficient. He went overboard and needs to go to the big house.
In the legal sense, my friend, not in the common, everyday sense. Dear ol' dad armed himself with a deadly weapon (to wit, a pool cue) before he even entered the bedroom and discovered the kid hiding in the closet. Then, after beating him with the pool cue, he left the scene (thereby obliterating his heat of passion defense) to get a more deadly weapon (to wit, a gun), return to the scene, and use that more deadly weapon to continue what he had begun.
He's in deep sh*t. His ways out are two: plea bargain, or pray to God his defense attorney has the best voir dire of his entire career. Or of any criminal defense lawyer's career since the OJ Simpson trial.
Bullets ricochet.
If the father didn’t shoot into the middle of the door, he obviously wasn’t “aiming” to hit a person in the other room.
Some one hits or kick me in my home after I tell them to leave is a "clear and present danger" that will be neutralized (i.e., shot) by ME prior to THEM getting an opportunity to escalate to a bludgeon, sharp object, or firearm.
According to ageofconsent.com, 16 is "the age" in Arkansas. Statutory rape charges are inapplicable, she was old enough to give full legal consent. Her father has NO say, as under Arkansas law, she is a woman who can make her own sexual decisions.
Trespassing is not warranted because she invited the boy in, regardless of what transpired _after_ he was inside.
- John
And, overreact - and it is YOU who will become subject to the law.
You cannot take "any" measure of self-defense. The "measure of self-defense" that you DO take must be appropriate to the immediate threat against you.
The young man here made no threat upon the homeowner's life, and indeed, offered to leave.
I would not want to go before a jury - even a "Texas jury" - for the shooting and attempted murder of someone who "kicked me".
This guy will find out about that, in court, before a jury of his peers.
As would you.
- John
I guess this qualifies as premature ejaculation termination.
I agree. It falls more into the “domestic violence” category.
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This guy will find out about that, in court, before a jury of his peers.
Ever seen the original movie version of Mel Brooks' The Producers?
Jury Foreman: "Your Honor... We find the defendant INCREDIBLY guilty!"
The main reason I read through the replies was to see if anyone else picked up on this. I gotta agree with you on this. If I were on a jury, and was presented with someone in a similar circumstance, I'd vote "not guilty" on that charge. People need to realize that we're the final break on this insanity.
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