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Taliban launch frontal attack on base---Darwin Award Nominees 2008
yahoo ^ | 7 August 2007 | trueblackman

Posted on 08/07/2007 12:55:00 PM PDT by Trueblackman

By RAHIM FAIEZ, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 6 minutes ago

A group of 75 Taliban militants tried to overrun a U.S.-led coalition base in southern Afghanistan on Tuesday, a rare frontal attack that left more than 20 militants dead, the coalition said in a statement.

The insurgents attacked Firebase Anaconda from three sides, using gunfire, grenades and 107 mm rockets, the coalition said. A joint Afghan-U.S. force repelled the attack with mortars, machine guns and air support.

"Almost two dozen insurgents were confirmed killed in the attack," the statement said. Two girls and two Afghan soldiers were wounded during the fight in Uruzgan province, it said.

A firebase like Anaconda is usually a remote outpost staffed by as few as several dozen soldiers.

"The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters," said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman.

A direct attack on a U.S. or NATO base by insurgents on foot is relatively rare. More often insurgents fire rockets at bases and flee. Military officials say that Taliban fighters know they can't match Western militaries in a heads-up battle, which leads the insurgents to more often rely on roadside and suicide bombs.

Meanwhile, South Korean officials and Taliban leaders were expected to agree Tuesday on a meeting place to negotiate the release of 21 South Korean hostages, an Afghan politician said.

The South Koreans and Taliban representatives have been talking by phone for several days and planned to determine a location for their first face-to-face talks by the end of the day, said Gov. Marajudin Pathan, the leader in Ghazni province, where the Koreans were kidnapped.

"There will be one of our government officials in the talks as well," Pathan told The Associated Press.

Pathan said that the meeting is likely to take place in Ghazni province, but could not provide any further details. South Koreans embassy officials were not immediately available for comment.

In South Korea, relatives of the hostages expressed disappointment Tuesday that meetings Sunday and Monday at Camp David between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and President Bush failed to produce concrete measures to bring the captives home.

The Afghan and U.S. presidents ruled out making any concessions to the Taliban militants during their meetings.

South Korean Foreign Minister Song Min-soon cautioned that the country should be prepared for a protracted ordeal, noting that other hostages in Afghanistan had been held an average of 35 days.

Song also said none of the captives were suffering from critical health problems.

A purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousef Ahmadi, said the meeting between Karzai and Bush had "no result," and that militant prisoners must be released in exchange for the lives of South Korean hostages or there will be a "bad result."

The militants kidnapped 23 Korean aid workers traveling by bus from Kabul to Kandahar on July 19. Two male hostages have been killed.

Taliban militants clashed with police in two separate incidents in southern Afghanistan, leaving five militants and two officers dead, officials said Tuesday.

The militants attacked police at a checkpoint in Zabul province on Monday, and the ensuing clash left five suspected militants dead, said Ali Kheil, the spokesman for Zabul's governor.

Also Monday, militants attacked a police vehicle just outside Kandahar city, killing two officers and wounding eight others, said provincial police chief Syed Agha Saqib. The attackers escaped and police are hunting for them, he said.

Insurgent attacks and military operations have killed more than 3,600 people so far this year, most of them militants. Much of the violence has been concentrated in the former Taliban stronghold in the south.

Also in southern Afghanistan, Dutch soldiers fatally shot a motorcyclist who approached their convoy and failed to heed warning signals and shots, the Dutch Defense Ministry said.

International forces are often the targets of suicide bombers, and they repeatedly warn Afghan civilian motorists to slow down or steer clear of convoys so they are not mistaken for attackers. Several civilians have been killed in such incidents.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; firebaseanaconda; taliban
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To: John Jorsett

That`s what I was wondering too. In VN the VC would
turn the mines around on a sleeping guard on perimeter
line,at least that was the rumor I heard while there.

Those Claymores were a great defensive barrier no doubt.
They scared the bejeze outta me,one fired close would
shake you.

Good work men of Firebase Anaconda


51 posted on 08/07/2007 2:21:26 PM PDT by 31M20RedDevil (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: ari-freedom
The dictionary also says:

3 a: to reduce drastically especially in number “cholera decimated the population”

Yep, I saw that one, too. Still, I prefer the original use of the word, since it is fairly precise in what it means. In fact, the cholera example above is still consistent with the original use of the word where every tenth one is destroyed or killed. I think a 10% reduction in the population constitutes a fairly drastic reduction.

52 posted on 08/07/2007 2:24:43 PM PDT by econjack
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To: lilylangtree

“Sheer sense of desperation. Hooray for the brave soldiers at Firebase Anaconda! BTW, I wonder what the South Koreans are prepared to give the Taliban in exchange for the hostages.”

By the way the SK’s are negotiating, apparently more South Koreans.


53 posted on 08/07/2007 2:28:09 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When O'Reilly comes out from under his desk, tell him to give me a call. Hunter/Thompson in 08.)
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To: econjack

Decimation was practiced in the Roman legions when a legion failed an attack, they were stood up in line, and every tenth soldier was put to the edge of the sword as motivation to the remaining troops.


54 posted on 08/07/2007 2:29:34 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: mission9

Yup...see post #25.


55 posted on 08/07/2007 2:31:45 PM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack
You're the first person I've ever seen who got this right.

You obviously don't know anyone who took Latin from the priests.

All 58 of us in our first year Latin class had to know what "to decimate" meant.

It was on the test.

56 posted on 08/07/2007 2:31:49 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Trueblackman
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57 posted on 08/07/2007 2:38:26 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Trueblackman

HA...pathetic attempt...we must remember these guys are still living in the dark ages...


58 posted on 08/07/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Trueblackman

“Allahu Fubar!!”


59 posted on 08/07/2007 2:50:22 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Trueblackman

Because these terrorists are among the most stupid people in the world, any no-holds-barred war against them would have succeeded by now. But, alas, the current war on those evil murderers continues to bog down in political concerns, both in America and in Europe. Eventually, that will change, but, unfortunately, too many good people will be killed first.


60 posted on 08/07/2007 2:55:08 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Trueblackman

great post. It’s stories like these that warm the heart


62 posted on 08/07/2007 3:10:15 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: PhilDragoo

Interesting; as I learned it, it was the commander who would line up the troops, then go down the rows and columns, stabbing every 10th man with a dagger.


63 posted on 08/07/2007 3:17:12 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: rabscuttle385; NeoCaveman
Hey now, don't insult the cavemen by comparing them to al-Qaeda terrorists!

Don't have an existential meltdown over it.

64 posted on 08/07/2007 3:20:51 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Trueblackman

Bravo, Firebase Anaconda defenders.

The SK “negotiators” deserve Darwin awards, too.


65 posted on 08/07/2007 3:35:23 PM PDT by CDB (Michael Yon is the Ernie Pyle of the War on Terror)
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To: Trueblackman
We shouldn't waste a single bullet against the Taliban's "full frontal assault".THIS would be sufficient to repel them: Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
66 posted on 08/07/2007 3:43:29 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Trueblackman
"The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters," said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman

This should be a theme song to the WOT.

67 posted on 08/07/2007 3:46:01 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. -Groucho Marx)
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To: Trueblackman

Brett Baird got it right and provided the clue for the suicide banzi attack.

President Karzi said yesterday the Talliban was no longer a fighting force.

In proving him wrong, they proved him right.


68 posted on 08/07/2007 3:50:05 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
"The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters," said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman.

I think the fact that the camel jockeys got their collective asses kicked by a bunch of guys under the command of a woman should be played to the hilt.

69 posted on 08/07/2007 4:01:30 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Trueblackman
Image hosted by Photobucket.com SunTzu readers they are not...
70 posted on 08/07/2007 4:08:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Red Badger

Any bets as to the makeup of the Taliban force? My bet is that they were forcibly conscripted (i.e., throwaways)so that the Taliban leadership could get intel on how our firebases operate when attacked.

Let’s hope that our military leadership understands we are playing a game of no-limit hold ‘em where you have to keep changing your style to throw off your opponents.

If not, I vote to conscript Chris Ferguson and Phil Ivey into service.


71 posted on 08/07/2007 4:14:31 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Trueblackman
Military officials say that Taliban fighters know they can't match Western militaries in a heads-up battle, which leads the insurgents to more often rely on roadside and suicide bombs.

Remember about 5 years ago when the MSM outlets were full of articles about how the Afghans were the toughest fighters in history and had never been conquered, had repelled the 19th century British military expeditions, driven out the mighty Soviet Red army in disgrace, defeated all invaders for thousands of years, etc, etc ad nauseum? According to the MSM no other fighting men in history have ever been as fierce and formidable as the Afghans. Why, our troops may as well go up against the Klingon Empire as the Afghans according to their propaganda.

Either the MSM were gullible dupes, outright liars, grossly mistaken, or they were trying to discourage the American people and cause them to keep Bush from going after Al Queda and OBL even back then. Mmmm, I wonder which one of those possibilities is correct?

72 posted on 08/07/2007 4:37:55 PM PDT by epow
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To: Trueblackman

The Taliban were tipped off and given their plan by that great strategist Jack Murtha.


73 posted on 08/07/2007 4:43:03 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: OrioleFan

—The Taliban were tipped off and given their plan by that great strategist Jack Murtha.—

Or, they were J***ed off by “Tip” Murtha.


74 posted on 08/07/2007 4:54:03 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Yo-Yo

Why weren’t there 75 dead?

They ran to their rear too fast.


75 posted on 08/07/2007 4:54:54 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: PhilDragoo

Never mind all the semantics. Our troops kicked some serious butt. I salute them!


76 posted on 08/07/2007 5:05:07 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: epow
"Remember about 5 years ago when the MSM outlets were full of articles about how the Afghans were the toughest fighters in history and had never been conquered,"

Yeah...how they would borrow in snow for days....so cold tool steel would snap.....and a summer so hot the water would boil right out of your canteen.

77 posted on 08/07/2007 5:10:58 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Trueblackman
Well, to be a true Darwin award winner, the subject must remove themselves before they can infect the gene pool. Chances are these scumbags left their filthy DNA behind.

Still, kudos to the boys at Firebase Anaconda. Outstanding!

78 posted on 08/07/2007 5:23:20 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: HIDEK6
All 58 of us in our first year Latin class had to know what "to decimate" meant.

Well, I guess I don't know your 57 friends.

79 posted on 08/07/2007 5:48:24 PM PDT by econjack
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To: ari-freedom

They have grown up fighting.

They know nothing but war.

They can’t stop.

How depressing.


80 posted on 08/07/2007 5:56:06 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: bert
Brett Baird got it right and provided the clue for the suicide banzi attack.

President Karzi said yesterday the Talliban was no longer a fighting force.

In proving him wrong, they proved him right.

Good post.

81 posted on 08/07/2007 6:09:18 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Trueblackman
"A joint Afghan-U.S. force repelled the attack with mortars, machine guns and air support."

Sound like these guy didn't even make it within 500 yards of the perimeter. Mortars and air support don't work when Muhammad is right outside the gate.

82 posted on 08/07/2007 6:17:44 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: GulfBreeze

Uh, I don’t think so.

Webster says:

Main Entry: dec·i·mate
Pronunciation: ‘de-s&-”mAt
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -mat·ed; -mat·ing
Etymology: Latin decimatus, past participle of decimare, from decimus tenth, from decem ten
1 : to select by lot and kill every tenth man of


83 posted on 08/07/2007 6:23:48 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: GulfBreeze

Sorry, just caught your follow up.

You are right that it now means to almost totally destroy. Weird when you think about it.


84 posted on 08/07/2007 6:25:11 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: econjack

Saw it in an old movie years ago. Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire? Not sure. Line the soldiers up on a bridge and pushed every tenth one off. Being about 10 it made a big impression. Was really cool, too.


85 posted on 08/07/2007 6:28:51 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Trueblackman

I didn’t think this was a good career move as soon as I read the headline earlier in the day.


86 posted on 08/07/2007 6:57:54 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: Trueblackman
Capet bomb the Taliban with Playboy's.

Destroy their fighting spirit.

This will make their women crazy to.

87 posted on 08/07/2007 7:00:36 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Global Warming is a cover story for Peak Oil.)
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To: Major_Risktaker

I’ll take number 7 to block...


88 posted on 08/07/2007 10:18:37 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Trueblackman
Let them crawl out from their holes.

Let them come on in human waves.

Let them think they have a chance.

Cut them down — as with scythes.

89 posted on 08/07/2007 10:23:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Yo-Yo

Some must have escaped through the smoke of us bombing the crap out of them.


90 posted on 08/08/2007 1:25:04 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Trueblackman
"The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters," said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman.

:-} Love your style Capt. Vanessa!

91 posted on 08/08/2007 1:27:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Trueblackman

That statement by Capt. Bowman is going to leave a mark. Especially coming from a woman. *gasp*


92 posted on 08/08/2007 1:36:40 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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