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Cardholders Caught In Credit 'Trap': Report
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292872,00.html ^ | 8-10-07

Posted on 08/11/2007 6:39:42 AM PDT by Hydroshock

WASHINGTON — A "dangerous cycle of debt" is trapping too many credit-card holders, making it increasingly difficult to protect their financial security, according to a report.

About one-third of cardholders pay interest rates in excess of 20 percent, according to a report from New York-based think tank Demos. Also, borrowers with one slip-up can incur a "cascade" of penalties and end up in a "trap" of high-cost debt, the report said.

"The excuse of risk-based pricing is used to justify everything. These prices go far beyond pricing for risk. Some of these interest rates and payment fees seem to not accurately reflect the risk," said Tamara Draut, a co-author of the report.

Draut criticized practices such as card issuers retroactively applying rate increases. The authors also noted that companies can change terms at will, and that there are no legal bounds to the amount of fees and interest that borrowers can be charged.

"As a result, cardholders often borrow money under one set of conditions and end up paying it back under a different set of conditions," according to the authors.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: credit; creditcards; debt; debtbad; onetrickpony; personalfinance
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To: Hydroshock

It is not easy to pay off credit cards. But, do it and don’t use them anymore.


161 posted on 08/12/2007 7:53:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Rightly Biased
Loan applications and many job applications ask if you have ever filed for bankruptcy.

At least on cars and mortgages...they say "in the last 7 years..." So if you say "no" because it was 15 years ago...you're telling the truth, as it wasn't within 7 years. Employment apps are a different story. However, it's generally one's performance and profile in the years since that most employers are worried about.

162 posted on 08/12/2007 7:54:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: Moonman62
What If I already used that fund for crap like medical bills?

Thanks for playing. Everybody loses (except the Saved, of course), so don't feel so put upon.

163 posted on 08/12/2007 7:56:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Hydroshock

Good for you!

I owe about $5210 on credit cards. That should be gone by year’s end.


164 posted on 08/12/2007 7:56:02 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: Moonman62
I didn’t say I was going to use a credit card. I already used my emergency funds on medical bills. There is no bus service, and it’s too far to walk on my broken ankle I just paid for. I need the job to make money to replenish my emergency fund and to take care of other expenses so I don’t become a burden on society.

You're right. Bad stuff happens even to those who are prepared. But far too many people are too shortsighted to prepare at all. A buddy of mine recently had to take out a payday loan to cope with a $150 doctor bill for his daughter. That loan cascaded into nearly $500 per month payments on a half-dozen payday loans.

So he got that all straightened out and what did he do? Did he build up a $1-2000 emergency fund? Nope. He bought a shiny new(ish) dealer-financed SUV.

He and many (most?) others have no plan whatsoever for dealing with financial emergencies.

165 posted on 08/12/2007 7:56:27 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: Moonman62
Do you live in some backwards country that doesn't have bankruptcy laws?

Moonman - bankruptcy doesn't get you out of debt. It just restructures it. You'll still end up paynig most of it back.

166 posted on 08/12/2007 7:57:21 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: Rightly Biased

In many cases, yes, but not all. While bankruptcy had been a bit too easy for some in recent years, there is a reason it was specifically put in the body of the Constitution.


167 posted on 08/12/2007 7:58:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Money order?

Just wait till someone tries to claim you never paid them. Then try to prove it.

Checks are better for that reason.


168 posted on 08/12/2007 7:59:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
They don’t seem to realize they can eventually save investment capitol and earn that total 10%.

Yes, but as they are saving, they're losing the 5% spread.

Assuming you're starting from a level of normal means, you WILL make more borring at 5 and investing at 10, than taking what would have gone to pay the interest and principal on the 5% and investing that instead, because you're starting from a much smaller basis.

169 posted on 08/12/2007 8:02:01 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: dalereed

Really? I have lots of credit card debt. As long as they’ll loan it on cheap terms, (i.e. 2.9% for life, etc.), I’ll borrow.


170 posted on 08/12/2007 8:03:52 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: RockinRight
there is a reason it was specifically put in the body of the Constitution.

Yes, and the reason was solely to ensure that the laws were "uniform". There is no mention of favoring lender or debtor or letting people off the hook because they over-did their home electronics purchases.

171 posted on 08/12/2007 8:09:03 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: RockinRight

When people talk about “borrowing” money out of desperation when they aren’t able to pay it back it is very close to stealing. The whole issue I brought up is “can you afford it?” If you pay it back you can afford it. Not necessarily wise to borrow at outrageous rates even if you can pay it back.


172 posted on 08/12/2007 8:09:04 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: BearCub
He and many (most?) others have no plan whatsoever for dealing with financial emergencies.

And eventually we the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for these kind of people.

173 posted on 08/12/2007 8:10:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: FreePaul
aren’t able to pay it back it is very close to stealing

It is stealing. Perhaps not 'theft' legally but it's stealing and is dishonest.

About the only theft I can personally excuse is stealing food, and then only in the most dire of circumstances (by that I mean if I catch you stealing food from my house, I'll probably bag some up for you and send you on your way. If I catch you stealing my TV you're getting a bullet in the chest).

BUT there is no excuse for stealing even food in the U.S. - there is no shortage of free food for those that need it.

174 posted on 08/12/2007 8:13:08 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: dfwgator
And eventually we the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for these kind of people.

Yup. Even worse: These people aren't prepared for retirement and never will be. I predict a "wealth tax" will be enacted in the next 30 years so we can use our saving to make sure they can have TVs, cars and vacations in retirement.

175 posted on 08/12/2007 8:14:32 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: Rightly Biased
The borrower is slave to the lender!

This is simple-minded. I am reminded of a piece of advice with which my secured transactions professor would always caution us:

If you borrow $1000, it is your problem. If you borrow $1,000,000, it is the bank's problem.

Truer words never spoken.

176 posted on 08/12/2007 8:22:01 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: BearCub
Moonman - bankruptcy doesn't get you out of debt. It just restructures it. You'll still end up paynig most of it back.

Depends on the chapter. Chapter 7, for instance, discharges debt.

177 posted on 08/12/2007 8:24:56 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
Depends on the chapter. Chapter 7, for instance, discharges debt.

I know, but few people qualify for a complete discharge anymore. If you make more than your state's median income, you'll be paying your creditors back.

178 posted on 08/12/2007 8:29:41 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: Publius Valerius

How true. I worked for a company that was OK financially although they had a relatively large bank debt. Our group got a large contract with prepayment for R&D expenses. The idiot finance VP took that money and paid down the bank debt. We had no R&D money and then became a target for the bank and ended up in bankruptcy.


179 posted on 08/12/2007 8:30:57 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: RockinRight

For twenty years I have never had a problem because I save the receipts. What’s so hard about that?

I also don’t have to balance a checkbook or worry someone is going to use my checks or wonder where they are.

Remember, I only use the money orders for things I can’t use a debit card for the very rare opportunities to buy something I can’t buy locally.

For purchase over five hundred dollars, I use a bank certified check.


180 posted on 08/12/2007 8:36:59 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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