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Fighting Pornography: A New Approach
Family Fragments.com ^ | 8/15/07 | Justin Hart

Posted on 08/15/2007 1:58:32 PM PDT by LightedCandle

Ed Meese, former attorney general under Ronald Reagan and Judith Reisman, noted author and scholar kick off "FamilyFragments.com" a website dedicated to fighting pornogrpahy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: edmeese; moralabsolutes; pornography
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To: Eagle Eye

Both Liberals and Conservatives have their favorite
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YOU CAN’T DO THIS OR YOU CAN’T OWN THAT LIST.
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They are both anti-American when they would restrict activities and possessions of George Washington.
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Throw them all out including the #^%&*# Bureaucrats.
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It’s all about social control. Get you used to
rolling over and when it comes to Amnesty for
Illegal Aliens they try to steamroller you.


61 posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:17 PM PDT by Surrounded_too (Robot machine guns and the Dirty Dozen)
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To: Eagle Eye

Both Liberals and Conservatives have their favorite
.
YOU CAN’T DO THIS OR YOU CAN’T OWN THAT LIST.
.
They are both anti-American when they would restrict activities and possessions of George Washington.
.
Throw them all out including the #^%&*# Bureaucrats.
.
It’s all about social control. Get you used to
rolling over and when it comes to Amnesty for
Illegal Aliens they try to steamroller you.


62 posted on 08/15/2007 4:42:11 PM PDT by Surrounded_too (Robot machine guns and the Dirty Dozen)
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To: dan1123
This I take issue with. If you have never been to whitehouse.com or any porn site that draws traffic through a misspelling of a popular website's name, then you haven't been on the internet that long. Those sites are easily blocked using any sort of NetNanny type of filtering software ... or using an ISP that does the filtering for you... also watch your kids when they are online ...

just don't ask the Govt Courts to handle ...

or do you agree w/ Hillary that "it takes a village" to raise your kids?

63 posted on 08/15/2007 4:42:25 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Obscenity is not protected by the first amendment.

Define "Obscenity" please ...

and who gets the final call on that?

64 posted on 08/15/2007 4:45:43 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: Marie2
Until we installed Firefox, my 10 yo daughter and two teenaged sons were “enjoying” xxx porn pop ups that we could not get rid of.

I think I agree with you. You probably should not have exposed your children to technology that you didn't understand.

I didn't allow my children to have access to porn until I thought they were old enough to appreciate it, at which point I installed a computer with high speed internet access in their room and allowed them to close their door when they wanted privacy.

I, who was denied access to porn until much later in life, was no where near as healthy in attitude or practice at that age as they are now.

I suspect porn is less unhealthy for a child than controlling, repressed parents who think of nudity and sex as dirty.

Guns don't kill people and computers do not expose children to anything, but those who own guns and computers are responsible for what is done with them.

65 posted on 08/15/2007 4:47:43 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Billthedrill
I’d only point out that whitehouse.com isn’t a porn portal anymore. It’s worse. It’s now about...politics...

Yeah, I remember when it was sold. It was the best example of a misleading porn site for a long time though.
66 posted on 08/15/2007 4:49:28 PM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: Marie2
Until we installed Firefox, my 10 yo daughter and two teenaged sons were “enjoying” xxx porn pop ups that we could not get rid of.

You knowingly allowed your children to enjoy porn. I wonder what the Nanny State Conservatives think of that.

67 posted on 08/15/2007 4:50:24 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: SubGeniusX

So do you agree with the statement that “websites clearly announce what content they have inside”?


68 posted on 08/15/2007 4:51:07 PM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: SubGeniusX
Legal definition of obscenity: the average person, applying contemporary community standards" would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest, the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law, and the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

The jury gets the final call.

69 posted on 08/15/2007 4:53:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: dan1123
All technological hurdles aside, I want to start with principles first. If it is not okay to have sex in the street downtown, is the reason why because it is viewable only to people within that community or because the community has a right to regulate what is publicly viewable within their borders?

OK. On principle, I would say that any local community has the right to ban internet connections entirely from public facilities, such as libraries, government offices, etc. Or, as an alternative, to censor/filter content in the same way that many private companies do. In theory, I guess they could outlaw the providing and selling of internet connections within their local jurisdictions if they wanted to, but the populace would be stupid to allow such a thing.

However, passing a law which attempts to outlaw only pornography on the internet requires the controls I described earlier, which would be virtually impossible to implement without Orwellian intrusiveness (think satellite internet connections, such as DirectTV).
70 posted on 08/15/2007 4:53:35 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: GulfBreeze; Wiz
Fighting pornography is not any step toward communism as a matte rof fact if you will read Karl Marx works you’ll find out breaking down the public morality is one of many steps towards communism.

Are we going to ban premarital sex too? I mean, hey, as long as we're shoring up public morality and all. How about extra-marital affairs? The article lists "disregard for marital vows" as one of the horrible side effects of porn, along with the "breakup of the family through divorce". So, why aren't these same people also pushing for a ban on divorce? After all, aren't these the real problems?

71 posted on 08/15/2007 4:53:57 PM PDT by monkfan
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To: SubGeniusX
watch your kids when they are online

Yeah, my son isn't old enough to be able to use a computer, but I know I have a pretty good system already set up for when he is.

just don't ask the Govt Courts to handle

Handle raising kids? I know this is the strawman argument always brought out in this debate. Tell me, do you support laws against public lewdness? How do you rationalize that against your internet arguments?
72 posted on 08/15/2007 4:57:02 PM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: LightedCandle
The results are unmistakable: exponential increases in addiction; exposure of children to scenes of brutality; loss of feeling towards spouses; disregard for marital vows and breakup of the family through divorce.

Wow.. looking at some pictures can do all that?

Not, I imagine, unless you a weak-minded fool.

73 posted on 08/15/2007 5:00:56 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: humblegunner

weak minded fools must be protected by the self annointed “protectors” /sarc


74 posted on 08/15/2007 5:08:11 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: monkfan

>> After all, aren’t these the real problems?

I think that the argument would be that wide acceptance of pornography has led to premarital sex and such.

But I don’t think that the reasons listed are the principles they are operating out of. They are just ways to get porn sites shut down because of other reasons.


75 posted on 08/15/2007 5:14:12 PM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: LightedCandle; All
There is a season for harsh laws too.

What brings on such a season? Degeneracy. The proclivity of Arabians for vices -- sex, drink, gambling -- brought on Mohammed. He sought to reign those vices in. And look with what we are left! Thousands of years later, even.

The spouse and child abuse, the destitution of England, brought on by gin, brought on the period of harsh Gin Laws in the eighteenth century.

In our own country the widespread production, read availability, and cheap prices of spirits and beer as we became urbanized around the turn of the Century -- and teh consequent spouse and child abuse, the dereliction of the duties of adulthood due to alcoholic stupors and sickness brought on ever increasing harsh laws, eventually the Prohibition.

The later two cases -- the Gin laws, the Prohibition --each was a circuit breaker to the destructive maelstrom unleashed by new production methods.

Porn has such a new method. We are flooded with cheap porn and there are social consequences.

These are undeniable, yet the horde of libertarian-zealots denies any problem, so it would seem.

Will they have us all left to chance against a coming Mohammed? Or to suffer a Prohibition?

For something must be done. If men, by themselves are unable to do it, then society must act by that collective moral force we implement as law.

And that law will be harsher for all the scoffing that nothing is wrong! Or that the pornographic equivalent of constant drunkenness is just a grand FREEDOM.

Folly always finds fools to join its march.

76 posted on 08/15/2007 5:17:59 PM PDT by bvw
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To: dan1123
Tell me, do you support laws against public lewdness? How do you rationalize that against your internet arguments?

The internet while being in a sense "public" actually requires "Private" things to be accessed... IE. a computer or web surfing device.. an subscription to an ISP.. etc... as an adult I have not found myself being surprised by "porn" while browsing in any time I can remember... now if I look for it thats a different story...

the internet is very different than taking a walk in the public square and finding a 2 people in the act of sex ... or some guy with his unit swinging in the wind...

as far as an earlier question:
So do you agree with the statement that “websites clearly announce what content they have inside”?
obviously this is not the case as there are "campers and such that take advantage of misspellings and such... and who in the hell would have known what "goatse" was (warning do not google "goatse").... but any good filtering software does not rely on the websites name or even voluntary ratings... most use search crawlers to determine content ... as a parent get good filtering software ...

77 posted on 08/15/2007 5:26:25 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: LightedCandle

What’s wrong with porn?


78 posted on 08/15/2007 5:28:07 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: SubGeniusX
The internet while being in a sense "public" actually requires "Private" things to be accessed.

So do television and radio. Are you opposed to FCC decency regulations?
79 posted on 08/15/2007 5:30:38 PM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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A great new program started by Ed Meese.

80 posted on 08/15/2007 5:35:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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