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Why the Brits are Losing Basra
American Thinker ^ | 8-15-07 | James Lewis

Posted on 08/15/2007 4:29:38 PM PDT by Renfield

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1 posted on 08/15/2007 4:29:44 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

US Congress looks like a congregation of virgins.

yeh......72 comes to mind.


2 posted on 08/15/2007 4:34:53 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Now, WE’LL have to go in there and clean it up. Great.


3 posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:01 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Good one!

Leni

4 posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:17 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: Renfield
EU Referendum is an excellent site with very, very intelligent and knowledgeable people writing and posting there (no I don't post there, quite a bit over my head), they have been tracking the British military situation for quite sometime, and it really does seem very bleak for Britain. I would imagine that the EU is hoping that Britain will eventually become the muscle end of this European superstate. I fear both will be very disappointed with the final product. All of which leads us to reconsider our NATO obligations, pronto.

The EU Referendum did a great job on exposing "green helmet guy" and staged propaganda from the last Israeli conflict in Lebanon, too.

5 posted on 08/15/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: Renfield
Leftist office holders on both sides of the Atlantic hate their own armies and right wing office holders on both sides of the Atlantic refuse to point it out and beat them over the head with it.

Regards

6 posted on 08/15/2007 4:56:37 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment..)
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To: jackibutterfly

ahh the gratitude of our allies. be my guest. lots of threads about the ‘Brits losing Basra’ sourced from various media outlets, it is clearly a popular topic, and gives many people a chance for some good ol’ Brit Bashing.


7 posted on 08/16/2007 9:08:43 AM PDT by Rikstir
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“The EU Galileo satellite navigation system is soaking up billions of euros just to duplicate the free American GPS system”

True, but GPS is US military and they have the ability to turn block the signal to the rest of the world. In the event of the US and Europe splitting alliances, we would want a dedicated satellite navigation system that would be outside of US military control.

If the US were in a similar position, they would opt for Galileo.


8 posted on 08/16/2007 9:12:02 AM PDT by Rikstir
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“The Basra failure is a mirror image of the Concorde Supersonic Ego-jet, which never made any financial sense, but simply allowed European aerospace to parade around the world, claiming it had the only civilian supersonic passenger jet. Well, that was true. Meanwhile, other airplanes were winning in the market because the Concorde was much too small and expensive for the average air passenger. The Concorde ultimately had to go.”

I hate this argument. Basically, its not worth inventing if its not going to make money and cant compete in the market. So what if Concorde lost money hand over fist. It was/is a technological tour-de-force, and when it was grounded I felt it was the first time in my lifetime that humanity had taken a technological step backwards.
If US inventors and tech’s are always bound by devising something to make money, then you guys will always be behind the minds in Europe. Given that we have invented everything...


9 posted on 08/16/2007 9:17:57 AM PDT by Rikstir
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We overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan using three hundred CIA and Special Forces on the ground, plus precision USAF bombing and a lot of bribe money.

That misses a key element, the Northern Alliance. We depended on them to get the Taliban to concentrate so we could blast them. It was a brilliant strategy. Too bad we haven't found a similar key to defeating the residual terrorists in either theater.

10 posted on 08/16/2007 9:20:25 AM PDT by edsheppa
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“nuclear proliferation to rogue regimes in the Middle East.”

What about your proliferation to India and Israel, further fuelling the nuclear arms race between India and Pakistan, and the continuous violence in the Middle East? They have fought three wars in the last 50 years, and the bigger the weapons get, the more deadly the next one will be.


11 posted on 08/16/2007 9:21:57 AM PDT by Rikstir
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Instead of preparing for counterinsurgency warfare, the most predictable ground war for the near future,

Back in the (very) early seventies I went to Quantico as a young Midshipman for an orientation exercise. Part of it was a presentation on what the Marines thought would be the future of warfare and what their mission would be. They presented this same conclusion.

Some of the smartest people I ever met were in uniform.

12 posted on 08/16/2007 9:27:46 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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Are you suggesting that the United States voluntarily gave nuclear secrets to Israel and India? And, if so, are you able to provide supporting documentation for that assertion?


13 posted on 08/16/2007 9:30:34 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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“...Given that we have invented everything...’

Perhaps you should do some research, and see which percentage of the world’s patents originated in the United States.

You don’t, by any chance, work for the BBC, do you? Your brand of twittery has a familiar ring to it.


14 posted on 08/16/2007 9:35:16 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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well if you boys have been watching the news of late, you will note that the US and India recently signed a nuclear agreement to provide India with nuclear fuel for its civilian reactors. A key clause in the deal, at the insistance of India, was the tacit approval of the US to allow India to refine spent nuclear fuel for use in weapons systems. I’m just saying it might not have been the best course of action, given that its arch enemy, Pakistan, might be feeling a little left out.

I’m not going to get drawn into the Israel question, as its too risky. You can alwauys stick your head in the sand.


15 posted on 08/16/2007 9:47:55 AM PDT by Rikstir
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not really thinking about the patents, mate, more about the major technological advances that have changed the course of humanity.

You know, things like electricity and the World Wide Web.


16 posted on 08/16/2007 9:53:21 AM PDT by Rikstir
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“You don’t, by any chance, work for the BBC, do you? Your brand of twittery has a familiar ring to it.”

No, I dont. You dont happen to work for Comical Ali do you, your brand of balls has a familiar ring to it!


17 posted on 08/16/2007 9:55:09 AM PDT by Rikstir
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“....You know, things like electricity and the World Wide Web....”

Except for the telegraph (which was invented where, and by whom?), electricity was just a medium for parlor tricks until the construction of an alternating current electrical system (which was first installed where?)

The “world wide web” was an outgrowth of DARPANET, which was invented by the U.S. Department of Defense.

Extra points for you if you can recall where Tim Berners-Lee was working, when he invented the web browser.


18 posted on 08/16/2007 10:00:10 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: Renfield

CERN


19 posted on 08/16/2007 10:19:54 AM PDT by Rikstir
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To: Rikstir

NO—it was the University of Illinois. The web browser was his thesis project when he was in graduate school there.

He went to CERN after he was at U of Ill.


20 posted on 08/16/2007 10:22:21 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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