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Posted on 08/15/2007 4:29:38 PM PDT by Renfield
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“Most best European fighting army” — yeesh, maybe the American Thinker should consider a name change.
I think your inquiry should have been directed to batco-barry, rather than me.
Please see post #41.
Well, most of it comes from the US, so with the exchange rate as it is, surely it must be cheaper for us ;-)
The main morale downer is the poor personal kit that we’re issued. I buy most of my own personal kit.
Do you think there are any Muslim groups in the US that aren’t sending money to the terrorists????
Without getting too sarcastic about this, the security services of my country have frozen a large amount of cash and accounts of muslims suspected of funding terrorism, our anti-terror laws allow it, and the Brit govt wouldn’t knowingly allow funding to go on, which wasn’t the case of the US govs when they knew of funding within the US of terror groups attacking the UK long, long before 9/11
Funny, I’ve been to Basra and al-amarah a few times and I never once saw any ‘Britishers’ getting an arse kicking. Attempted arse-kickings....yes, but none followed through.
“The folks who provided money to the IRA are the same ones who voted for Teddy Kennedy (who is attempting to do to this country, through political means, what the IRA attempted to do to Britain through violence). Freepers consider such people decidedly un-American, their residence here notwithstanding.”
To be honest, you’re the 1st Freeper that has ever come back with a post like that.
I’ve had some comeback with things like ‘you deserved all the bombs you got from the IRA freedom fighters’. From people that upon further duscussion, really didn’t know what they were talking about.
Thank you for your post though, does give me faith that some Americans saw through all the Teddy Kennedy BS.
Try this:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ira/reports/america.html
“....To be honest, you’re the 1st Freeper that has ever come back with a post like that.
I’ve had some comeback with things like ‘you deserved all the bombs you got from the IRA freedom fighters’. From people that upon further duscussion, really didn’t know what they were talking about....”
I’m surprised to hear that. Have you considered the possibility that such persons could be “trolls”? They do crop up here from time to time (mostly venturing over from Democratic Underground, which is crawling with Kennedy’s orcs).
There are plenty of persons here who are of Irish ancestry, and I have never once seen one of them express support for the IRA, or their ideology (which, let us not forget, is radical-leftist, in addition to being anti-British).
“..Well, most of it comes from the US, so with the exchange rate as it is, surely it must be cheaper for us ;-)...”
Then, I suppose two other possibilities exist; either the MoD has wasted billions on having the Typhoon constructed in 4 Eurostates (and we all know the whole thing could have been done in Britain, reducing the time-to-service by several years);
Or, someone at the MoD is building luxury homes in Gstaad and the Caymans with money that should have gone to gear for the Tommies.
Which do you suppose it is?
Regarding my post #51:
Oops, I forgot...you’ve had a Labour government for years. That in itself might be enough to explain it.
Oops, I forgot...you’ve had a Labour government for years. That in itself might be enough to explain it.
Allowing the city of Basra to descend into a chaos and violence filled hellhole is to evidence of an arse kicking, in a political and strategic sense.
Not only in a military sense.
Now, when you invade a country and then that country descends into chaos on your watch, in this case the part of the country called Basra, conditions not coming anywhere close to any level of calm and stability, then I do say the occupying force received a solid thumping.
So you’ve been to basra lately then???
Cheap shot question. But you know that.
Anyway, here’s a recent update...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/19/wiraq119.xml
Maybe, but I simply asked because I have.
I’ve also been to Al-Amarah and Baghdad which were always a bigger problem than Basra was. I spent every other day over a 4 week period in late 2003 on what was known as the ‘suicide run’ from Basra to Al-Amarah which was known as dodge city at the time. the run was basically a supply route which was mined or what seemed like an hourly turnaround. We didn’t have many ground elements to support the convoys, so we sometimes got aerial support from heli gunships that had just come from where we were going and that was pretty much it.
No one wanted to know about Al-Amarah so in the end a Battalion from the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment was asked ‘bring order’ which they pretty much damn well did.
I don’t agree with us pulling out of Basra, I certainly don’t agree that we’ve had our arses kicked , however if we’re to meet the PMs wishes of bolstering ops in Afghanistan, the only way we can do so is by reducing personnel in Basra.
“Oops, I forgot...you’ve had a Labour government for years. That in itself might be enough to explain it.”
Yes, pretty much. throwing money at meaningless european ventures.....
Then you would presumably call Vietnam the mother of all defeats for the US?
Dunno about the mother part, but to quote Dubya, it was a thumpin’!
Despite the US winning every battle militarily, the war was lost, a defeat first for the US, then for the South.
As Gen Giap noted, whilst the US won every military battle, that fact all by itself was irrelevant.
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