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Michael Vick’s Federal Dogfighting Criminal Charges
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Posted on 08/21/2007 8:58:20 AM PDT by PurpleMan

Vick is accused of paying “approximately $34,000” for property located in Smithfield, Va. to train, breed, and house pit-bulls for dogfighting, and engage in dogfighting events with others.

The charges contain multiple allegations of abuse against animals, including that Vick and two co-defendants “executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well.” The executions were allegedly carried out in a variety of brutal ways, including “hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog’s body to the ground.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: smithfield; vick
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To: mad puppy

Cock Fighting is LEGAL in New Mexico, Louisiana, and Oklahoma. Would you people be as outraged about Vick if his animals were chickens instead of Dogs? I’d like to believe FreeRepublic is a place where people use their heads more than their hearts.


61 posted on 08/21/2007 1:30:23 PM PDT by RC51
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To: apocalypto
“Dog fighting is awful. To torture animals for the fun of it, one has to be a sadist. I am appalled that several on this thread think it is okay. What kind of sick minds believe that just because there are injustices in other areas of our system, we should allow tormenting of animals.”

Yeah, I know ... but in their next breath they’ll claim to be “conservatives”. Nah, they’re sadistic. They put no value on life - human or otherwise.

They sadist sympathizers contribute to defining EVIL DOWN and furthering destroying a civilized culture. We already think abortion is “no big deal”. Euthanasia for adults, who are helpless is “not big deal” - Terry S.. So it goes to follow that torturing and murdering animals should be “no big deal”.

I fell terrible for humans and people that seen as sadistic entertainment with the result being their death.

62 posted on 08/21/2007 1:36:57 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: apocalypto
“Dog fighting is awful. To torture animals for the fun of it, one has to be a sadist. I am appalled that several on this thread think it is okay. What kind of sick minds believe that just because there are injustices in other areas of our system, we should allow tormenting of animals.”

Yeah, I know ... but in their next breath they’ll claim to be “conservatives”. Nah, they’re sadistic. They put no value on life - human or otherwise.

They sadist sympathizer's contribute to defining EVIL DOWN and furthering destroying a civilized culture. We already think abortion is “no big deal”. Euthanasia for adults, who are helpless is “not big deal” - Terry S.. So it goes to follow that torturing and murdering animals should be “no big deal”.

I fell terrible for humans and people that seen as sadistic entertainment with the result being their death.

63 posted on 08/21/2007 1:37:32 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: fish hawk
I’m not familiar with that book so I’ll have to take your word for it ... .

I find sadistic entertainment with animals as just another extension of the culture of death crowd. There was NO reason for Vick to engage in this. None. He had it all. It wasn’t enough. The problem with Vick is his soul is troubled. No amount of $$$, women or death dog fights will satisfy him ... he’s in self destruct mode.

64 posted on 08/21/2007 1:41:03 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: BarbM
“I know of a female in Texas who has had 6 abortions. SIX. I don’t understand the outrage of hurting dogs, when we’re killing each other by the thousands every day.”

I hear ya!

Don’t misunderstand me. I value human life over animal life - no “buts” about it.

People have little value for HUMAN life and that is extending to ANIAML life as entertainment no less. It’s a domino effect, as I see it. Look at Terry S. - euthanized her by starving her to death - so wrong on so many levels ... so seeing animals breed to be killers and fight to the death just follows.

Death as entertainment sickens me. Abortions sicken me. I DO favor capital punishment when GUILTY beyond any reasonable doubt - and I don’t equate INNOCENT life as in abortion with that. I draw the line on punishment of the GUILTY.

What’s worse is folks claiming to be “christians” will give you this nonsensical crap about “sin is sin” and they piously homogenize all sin no matter how grievous. No, it is SIN that SEPARATES us from God however the degrees of punishment are clearly different - if those empty headed hypocrites would crack open their Bible and read what God stated to the Jews on punishment - under His theocracy.

No, I don’t forget about aborted little human beings ... I am so sorry that society doesn’t care and wants to make the premeditated murder by our medical folks “safe” for those that must do this. I’m thankful I grew up when abortions were ILLEGAL in the U.S..

This cheer leading attitude for for animal sadism logically follows where our society and culture is headed ... .

65 posted on 08/21/2007 1:52:12 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: mad puppy
What can one say ...

Some here are as SICK

as Vick.

Shamelessly sadistic.

Totally ILLOGICAL. No knowledge of laws. Yet that doesn't stop them from advertising these FACTS about themselves. Makes one want to take a shower to shower away their permeating EVIL.

66 posted on 08/21/2007 1:58:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: RC51
I torture animals every Deer season.

Then you must be a terrible shot.

3. Animals are not people and themselves can not be victims.

That doesn't follow at all.

If Vick spends one day in jail it is a travesty.

Agreed! That would not be nearly enough. A year would be a good start.

67 posted on 08/21/2007 2:01:48 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: hophead

That’s usually due to a state or city law not a federal law. It’s also a civil seizure rather than part of the criminal charges. The way it works when they seize the property you have to sue in civil court to get it back even if you aren’t charged in criminal court. The burden is very different. In criminal court they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and in most states get a unanimous verdict. In civil court all the state needs to do is get 50% of the jurors +1 and you lose.


68 posted on 08/21/2007 2:10:30 PM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: Petronski
Then you must be a terrible shot. I'll agree with that! I'm a great shot at the target range with stationary objects at a predetermined range under ideal conditions and all the time I need. I can put a 3 shot grouping in the area of a half dollar at 200 meters. But on opening day when the sun is just rising and my eyes are adjusting, I see that 12 point buck 200 meters through the brush and my heart gets to pumping... I'm lucky not to ruin one of the quarters. They are just animals everyone! What is the big deal? We kill them, we eat them, we wear their skins, we make car seats out of them, we race them, we bet on them, we train them to sniff out bombs and drugs so we don't get shot or blown up. But in the end they are not people, stop transmogrifying them into the children you were to self-indulgent to have.
69 posted on 08/21/2007 2:55:16 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

Haven’t you ever had a pet that your really loved?


70 posted on 08/21/2007 2:58:08 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: PurpleMan
Geez-O-Pete. This guy is sick and twisted. The dog fighting aside; So some dogs didn't preform, that means you have to kill them?

I say get about a dozen pit bulls, let them get a little hungry and mean, perhaps some of the dogs Vic didn't kill, and throw him into a ring with them and lock the door.

Just so he can get a feel for it.

And hey, if he survives, then send whats left of him to prison, for a very long time. We don't need his kind being any kind of figure for the kids in this country.

71 posted on 08/21/2007 3:05:16 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: Petronski
I think it’s clear this person has no feelings for anyone but them self. Very cold person ... . Entertainment, sadistic or not is what drives this person.

Be thankful you don’t relate to this person.

I am.

72 posted on 08/21/2007 3:05:55 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Petronski

Yep, I’ve had a whole lot of pets I loved. Last month I had one of my most beautiful coral beauty dwarf angles jump out of the tank and dry up on the floor while I was out. It really had me down; lucky for me the pet store had another one on sale for $40.

I view pets the same as property. I really loved my RC51 race-bike until I crashed it on the road-course this last weekend. Not a good feeling at all seeing it all wadded up.

I guess the difference is I have a few children who are human beings and not property like pets or objects are.

Imagining animals have human like properties is a hazardous path fraught with a slippery slope straight down which ends with you voting for a Democrat! hahaha - that was humor on my part.


73 posted on 08/21/2007 3:14:27 PM PDT by RC51
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To: AFreeBird
...So some dogs didn't preform, that means you have to kill them?
Same thing happens to greyhound dogs that are raised to race. And horses for that matter. Some people honestly believe a horse can't heal a broken leg and it dies a natural death if it breaks it leg. Nope, people kill the horse cause the leg will never be strong enough for the horse to perform like it did before.
74 posted on 08/21/2007 3:29:46 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51
I’d like to believe FreeRepublic is a place where people use their heads more than their hearts.

I'd like to believe that FreeRepublic didn't attract people like you. It causes me to question my membership and participation.
75 posted on 08/21/2007 3:38:11 PM PDT by mutley
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To: mutley

Maybe Peta has blog for ya?


76 posted on 08/21/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51
Maybe Peta has blog for ya?

That's exactly the post I expected from you.
77 posted on 08/21/2007 3:52:48 PM PDT by mutley
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To: RC51
Once upon a time, we did put a horse out of its misery when it had a broken leg. Usually because the time and technology involved in healing it wasn't practical out on the plains, mountains or wherever. That is no longer the case. And besides, broken bones, given the chance to heal, usually heal stronger than they were. I know, cause I have a nice big collarbone that you can tell was once broken and would hold up under the stresses that broke it better than it did before.

Granted, a thoroughbred race horse may, or may not race again as well as he did, but that doesn't mean you have to kill it.

The only reason to do so would be that the poor dumb bastard that put the animal in the position that injured it, would not be willing to take the time and effort to do so, because they think of it as only property.

78 posted on 08/21/2007 4:05:26 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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Anyone ever been to a bull fight where they kill the bull at the end?


79 posted on 08/21/2007 4:12:12 PM PDT by RC51
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To: Petronski
Haven’t you ever had a pet that your really loved?

No one that thinks like this could love anything, and dear God, I pray he never had a pet. I'm not even sure this one's for real. Can't imagine anyone being this calloused. Vick isn't the only one that's sick IMO.

80 posted on 08/21/2007 4:31:24 PM PDT by mupcat
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