Posted on 08/22/2007 5:46:38 AM PDT by SJackson
The Turks are clowns. They can be useful clowns at times, but they are still clowns.
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Along with Ambassador Morgenthau, Raphael Lemkin, who coined the word genocide
Ankara, like Pontius Pilate, has a problem with truth.
Geez, it was 90+ years ago. Get over it. They already have enough **** to worry about with the world today, they really need to dig this up as a reason to tussle? Newsflash: Every nation at times has treated it’s people and other peoples badly, persecuting them, killing them... the idea is to learn your lesson from it and not do it again.
i’d like to see the day when that jowl faced scumbag foxman adresses the communist genocides of cambodia,ussr,and china (in ascending order of severity)-just because you’re killing your own doesn’t make it less of a crime-the adl and the people who want a holocaust museum in every city are afraid of losing their pre eminent position on suffering-when someone is killed for no reason they’re just as dead regardless of who they are-acknowledging the enormity of communist mass murder doesn’t diminish the jewish experience-it merely puts it in perspective in a brutal world-the monument to victims of communism is pitifully small-why has there been such a vacuum of knowledge on the subject-is it taught to schoolkids?i will bet it isn’t.why?
“Geez, it was 90+ years ago. Get over it.”
90 plus years ago and NEVER RECOGNIZED.
It’s so easy for you to say “get over it.”
Having lost my ancestors in the genocide for no reason at all, and for the genocide to continue to be denied by Turkey and ignored by the world community, as though their lives meant absolutely nothing, we Armenians will “get over it” when it is FINALLY RECOGNIZED.
point taken
I did quite a bit of research on this subject years ago, and I’m with Bernard Lewis on this one; it was not a “genocide.”
Muhammad was a buffoon. A psycho killer buffoon
Now exactly where did Pilate have a truth problem?
For no reason at all? The Armenians staged a full scale uprising in the middle of a world war, a war the Turks were losing. When you use a war to leverage your rebellion, and fail, bad consequences follow (see Irish, Cromwell). There is no question that thousands of Armenians were killed, many of whom had nothing to do with the insurrection, but “no reason at all” is unsupportable.
He famously asked: "What is truth?", betraying his confusion with the concept.
Hmmmmm, was it not a rhetorical question?
Does that make mohammedans collectively an "Insane Clown Posse"?
If it were a sincere question, it would mean that he was unfamiliar with the concept of truth.
If it were, more likely, a rhetorical question, then it would imply that Pilate had contempt for the very notion of truth.
In either case, Pilate clearly had a problem with truth.
My, what a refined notion of justice you possess.
As a certain someone, whom no doubt you hold in high personal regard, once said: "Put some ice on it."
Oh, yes, I’ve heard that excuse by the Turkish government many times before. “The” Armenians staged a “full-scale uprising,” according to you, who bought the Turkish government’s spin.
My grandmother, who was a young child, her grandmother, who was an old lady, and other relatives, many children, many old, all civilians — all in the death march.
Oh, sure, they were a real threat.
Hitler saw the Jews as a “threat” too. I guess that must mean the Jews were at least partly responsible for the Holocaust too, according to your logic? After all, some of them staged riots too.
I disagree, Pilate's words still apply to this day, because there is NO consensus on what TRUTH actually is. This article proves that point, is there any question about the deaths of Armenians, and why is it still a point of contention?
I used to be a member of the John Birch Society and I can assure FReepers that it was always the Turks who were supported vis a vis the Greeks and Armenians. Greek Cypriots were accused of massacreing Turkish Cypriots, Archbishop Makarios III was called a "leftist," and one of their magazines ran a headline "Grecophile in Congress." As for the Armenians, they have long been "the Jews of chr*stendom."
All that being said, it is undeniable that Turkey has been a better friend to America and Israel than Greece (which is very anti-American and anti-Israel) and that both the Greek- and Armenian-American communities seem to have a hard-left orientation.
The Armenian Church is a purely ethnic church with little theology (despite its beautiful liturgy) and a great deal of nationalism and victimology (sort of the liturgical equivalent of Black Baptists).
I don't really have a dog in this fight, so I think I'll air pop some popcorn, take a seat, and watch the fun!
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