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I got the link to this article from the site "AmericanWomenSuck" this morning. I was there visiting after reading about that site on the thread about Languishing 30 something females, by fembot Marisa Micallef which depicted the state of modern feminism and it's impact on the dating scene in Malta.

Quote: "Everywhere you go, and never more so than in summer when everyone is out displaying their wares, via plastic bag filled boobs, pert bums, over arched eyebrows, waxed of hair female and male bodies, you see hordes, or groups of thirty something girls who may never marry( unless they find a foreigner), who may never have kids,(unless they decide to go it alone), and who are in a sense doomed to the frustrations and none of the glamour of the lives of women we saw in Friends, on Ally McBeal, on Sex in the City."

And of course I became intrigued. It's sad that so many women have fallen for the lies promoted by feminism. What they think has "set them free" has doomed them to a life without children and man who's willing to stay with them long enough to provide them any comfort.

And worse, the same movement has fostered a generation of men who are just as willing to embrace the lack of any real responsibility for themselves, any children they have throughout their random encounters or the women who are willing to produce them.

I mean, yes, they were there before, but now society seems to celebrate their like instead of castigating them for the disaster they are creating for our country.

OK, I could rant for hours, but frothing at the mouth is hard work and I have a long, long day ahead. I'll be content to check in and see how my fellow FReepers receive this post.

To be honest, I see some of these ladies every day. Career oriented, goal driven and fierce competitors in the corporate world. And Alone...a point that strikes as obvious on any given company event or outing. To be honest, I pity them and it's very sad. To work so hard and then to look back on your life and realize that you wanted something else? Feminism has been very cruel to these women. It's heartbreaking.

To counter this, we have several mothers we work with in the group. They are high level and yet each have several children and either a good marriage or relationship. They are indispensable and I do not know what I would do without them, we rely on each other AND they are a joy to work with. They are happy and fulfilled and it shows. The former group seems very bitter and full of complaints in comparison.

Oh, and here's the link to the thread at the other site in the event people are curious about the debate there. Most of the threads are similar to this.

As far as American women? They are wonderful. There is no difference between them and foreign women that would place any benefit in the latter's court. You just have to meet the right one. Just find one that hasn't been "lost" due to "MTV exposure" and remember that MTV is shown around the world...

1 posted on 08/29/2007 2:18:42 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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There’ll be a book about this story, Why Ken Sucked At Being A Mommy, required reading in every school library. Man, so sorry lady that some guy had the audacity to want something more out of life. Bet you’d cluck your tongue at a woman who did that...

Oh, no, you’d pass the name of a good lawyer to her.


2 posted on 08/29/2007 2:24:56 AM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Caipirabob

The purpose of feminism is to destroy Western civilization. Period.


3 posted on 08/29/2007 2:27:01 AM PDT by rogue yam
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This woman wouldn’t be happy with anyone. As soon as she lands a new man, she’ll find something wrong with him. She emasculating these metrosexuals.


4 posted on 08/29/2007 2:27:23 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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For those of you interested in getting right to the end of the article, here's the big laugh:

She goes right back out and marries exactly the same kind of guy!

***

In retrospect, I realized I had this preconceived idea of what a sexy, attractive man should be like. I imagined being married to, well, someone like me. Someone whose job sounds interesting to other people. Someone who walks out the door with a pressed shirt on, a leather briefcase, and a confident gait. Someone who wins bread. Does that make me a sexist? "I always felt embarrassed and guilty—you had all these ambitions for me that I felt like I wasn't living up to," Mark said to me after our divorce.

So nobody was more surprised than I was when I went ahead and fell for another stay-at-home dad.

Here's the difference, though: Jason knows what he wants—and it's not a corner office. He wants to have his afternoons free to hit the park with my daughter or paint or translate the writings of Pablo Neruda. There's nothing thwarted or self-pitying about him. When we're cooking dinner together on Friday nights in a kitchen fragrant with curry, or trying to drink coffee in bed on Sunday mornings while my daughter dances around us, I'm so attracted to him that it's all I can do not to rip his clothes off then and there.

Put it this way: Whether it's me or the fort he's holding, I think it's damn sexy.

***

I'm shaking my head here...

5 posted on 08/29/2007 2:30:05 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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the same movement has fostered a generation of men who are just as willing to embrace the lack of any real responsibility for themselves, any children they have throughout their random encounters or the women who are willing to produce them

Children need a father! This is just so very crucial.

6 posted on 08/29/2007 2:30:59 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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I think it was the first time I'd actually listened to what he had to say in years. He said that he was angry with me for always putting work first and angry with himself for not being able to find a job. He said he didn't appreciate being treated like a nanny-slash-housekeeper-slash-gardener. But what alternatives was he offering?

We separated a few months later.

Well, sure.

HE objects to the way YOU treat him, and it's up to HIM to "offer" some "alternative" ???

Pardon moi, your majesty.

7 posted on 08/29/2007 2:31:34 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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PING!

Pinging a few ping list managers. This thread might be interesting following the discussion of the Malta Dating scene in the "Languishing ladies" thread.

10 posted on 08/29/2007 2:34:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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One thing that is really sad is even when we have a republican ‘family values’ president or governors the feminist ideology is still taught in schools. I would say most children, especially girls become indoctrinated into really believing what they are taught there.

Its not until the mid 30’s for most women that I know/have seen in my life.. that they start questioning feminism. Start wondering what would really make them happy.

There is really no way to unteach feminist indoctrination either.. its like trying to convince a woman that her religion is wrong. Not going to happen.


12 posted on 08/29/2007 2:35:53 AM PDT by ran20
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she makes me sick.


17 posted on 08/29/2007 2:38:50 AM PDT by wildwood
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Just read the whole thing on why she left her beta. What a fool. She finds another stay-at-home husband who turns her on, for now at least. Seems clueless that she is just repeating her mistake and this time with a man who will stay at home with her daughter, when he’s not her father.
Yo, Amy! One day when you realize you haven’t made love in a year, pray he’s been with someone who doesn’t have AIDS. Then pray he hasn’t been messing with your little girl either.


19 posted on 08/29/2007 2:45:05 AM PDT by Graymatter ( bother taglines)
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In retrospect, I realized I had this preconceived idea of what a sexy, attractive man should be like. I imagined being married to, well, someone like me. Someone whose job sounds interesting to other people. Someone who walks out the door with a pressed shirt on, a leather briefcase, and a confident gait. Someone who wins bread. Does that make me a sexist? "I always felt embarrassed and guilty—you had all these ambitions for me that I felt like I wasn't living up to," Mark said to me after our divorce.

Her fantasy list is clearly missing one thing. It especially stands out as it is the top of my list: a man with a solid relationship with God and a value system that stems from that relationship. Where girlfriend is God in your life, your ideals, and your relationships?

So nobody was more surprised than I was when I went ahead and fell for another stay-at-home dad.

Another major question? Well if he was a stay at home dad when you met him, who pray tell was paying for this man and his child to live? The guberment? His ex-wife? His present wife he was separated from? Was he independently wealthy? If so, that is all that made him different from husband one is that he had money and didn't feel any pressure to prove himself that way. That money is probably what warmed up the sheets. I hate to think this man's ex-wife was paying his paycheck. Now that would be a real icer for me. The women is clearly attracted to men to be there for her. Own it lady. She doesn't take the time to explore HER motives and what compels her to these sort of men. It is all about her and serving her needs and how she feels. What does the child take from all of this?

Here's the difference, though: Jason knows what he wants—and it's not a corner office. He wants to have his afternoons free to hit the park with my daughter or paint or translate the writings of Pablo Neruda. There's nothing thwarted or self-pitying about him. When we're cooking dinner together on Friday nights in a kitchen fragrant with curry, or trying to drink coffee in bed on Sunday mornings while my daughter dances around us, I'm so attracted to him that it's all I can do not to rip his clothes off then and there.

I'm telling you she either found someone who is independently wealthy through family money or he is living off a paycheck from his ex-wife for taking care of the child. My guess is the former. She couldn't stand a man who was more into his work then her. So in the end it is all about sex? Hope for her sake that doesn't wear off. Then it will be on to husband numero three.

21 posted on 08/29/2007 2:48:18 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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Ping for later read. What a pretentious bitch. People like this make me glad I live in the woods.


22 posted on 08/29/2007 2:51:33 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Criticize me if you will but just don't circumcise me any more.)
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BTTT for later.
24 posted on 08/29/2007 2:52:19 AM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Caipirabob

I blame the mojitos!


27 posted on 08/29/2007 2:54:24 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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Career oriented, goal driven and fierce competitors in the corporate world. And Alone

Vital topic, nothing is more responsible for our collective misery, nothing sells more prozac.

Here's my 2c:

Women are sexually attracted to worldly success in men. Other things play a role, of course, but that is one of the fundamentals.

Men, on the other hand, are indifferent to worldly success in women. We don't fear it, we don't hate it - we just don't care about it.

Many high-end successful women expect that men will be attracted to their success in the same way they are attracted to successful men.

Alas, it's not so. Successful men can choose partners from essentially all available women, while successful women rule out all but 1% of men.

The resulting imbalance makes our successful women bitterly unhappy, and, given their verbal and manipulative skills, their unhappiness is being very effectively spread around.

34 posted on 08/29/2007 3:04:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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I would gratefully hold down two or three minimum wage slop jobs before I would spend a single day with a toddler at home.


35 posted on 08/29/2007 3:05:57 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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What possible reason could she have for spewing intimate personal info about her ex into an article that’s notable only for its vacuity? Oh, yes, she has to pronounce to the world how superior she is to her ex, the ultimate post-divorce revenge motive....... fwiw, her ex sounds like a real putz and so does she.


36 posted on 08/29/2007 3:06:10 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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So...

What’s the one thing missing from this whole story?

Love.

The only thing she says she loves was her job...


41 posted on 08/29/2007 3:21:44 AM PDT by DB
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Holy crap, what a nightmare.

My wife and I have been married for fifteen years as of December. She works for our family business; I am a writer and work from home. Baby Chan goes to the office with Mommy (and Grandma), but after she gets home I take the baby. While she unwinds a bit, I get to spend time with Baby Chan, fooling around on his play mat with him, going for walks, and so forth. Mommy is a gourmet cook, so after her down time she whips up a light supper. Then we all eat dinner together and Mommy and I talk about our day.

After dinner, I tidy up the kitchen while Mommy folds laundry or combs the cat or some similar light chore. (We share supervision of Baby Chan during this time.) Finally, about 9:00, I shift to pajamas, give the Tater Tot a light sponge bath, strap a fresh diaper on him, put him in his PJs, and we go to bed. He usually grabs my finger and falls asleep in his co-sleeper crib within ten minutes or so. I lie in our big bed next to his little bed with my arm stretched over to where he sleeps, listening to him breathe; meanwhile, Mommy brushes her teeth and jammies up. Then she comes to bed, I get up, and my work day recommences until two or three in the morning or so. (I take a brief nap in the mornings to make up for lost winks.)

Everything we do here at Chez Chan is a team effort. Despite my status as a work-at-home dad, my wife respects me as a man, and if anything we have become closer since our son was born. (We spend Saturday mornings lying in bed together, chatting and playing with the baby.) If there’s a happier guy on Earth than me, I’ve never heard of him.

And the reason I’m happy? Because I married a real woman, a woman with a kind and loving heart, a woman who knows that a family is a team — and not a selfish, preening harpy like the one who wrote the article.

Thank you, God.


43 posted on 08/29/2007 3:31:28 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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I thought women finally had what they really wanted - everything.

Women are now liberated. They can be anything they want.

American women should be deliriously happy.

A woman's husband is now just a footnote on her resume' if she is not too embarrassed by his work status to even mention his existence to others.

46 posted on 08/29/2007 3:36:46 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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