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GOP version of Kucinich may be key person in race (Houston Chronicle on Ron Paul)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 9/8/07 | Roy R Reynolds

Posted on 09/09/2007 5:30:35 PM PDT by traviskicks

For better or for worse — well, for worse — Ron Paul has become the Dennis Kucinich of the Republican Party.

His presidential campaign is an Ayn Rand express train rolling through a country already taken over by collectivists of various stripes. That there may be a caboose full of crazy sitting at the end of that train is enough to doom his chances.

But please, Ron, don't drop out just yet. The country might not want another Texan with nutty ideas and a political tin ear, but it may need one.

Many conservatives breathed a heavy sigh of relief when Fred Dalton Thompson confirmed Thursday that he was running for president. But while Thompson may be the best overall candidate for the Republicans, having someone like Paul in the hunt ought to generate healthy debate and more informed politics.

Unfortunately, it seems from the poll numbers that Americans like their politics devoid of straight talk. And it's not just Hillary Clinton trying to run away from her vote on the Iraq invasion.

Rudy Giuliani, running on the basis of his outstanding leadership around 9/11 (and the willingness of people to forgive earlier missteps), promises he would appoint pro-life judges, while still holding the pro-choice line. Mitt Romney is a large mass of wishy-washy whose riskiest stance so far was turning his back on soon-to-be-former-senator Larry Craig.

John McCain still speaks with conviction, but everyone seems disinterested in hearing what their cranky grandfather has to say about military strategy and the uselessness of torture.

Paul, however, is consistent with his message of defanged government and neo-isolationist policies. He talks about getting rid of the Internal Revenue Service and making sure the government leaves its citizens well enough alone.

That kind of talk ought to rally Texas conservatives, with the "get off my land" attitudes so prevalent over the past, oh, 170 years. Honestly, if all his positions are taken as a whole, it looks like the backbone of Texas conservatism. But he's barely making a dent in the polls even in his own backyard.

Because Paul still comes across as a little nuts. He doesn't fit in with the rest of the GOP, somehow. Opposition to the Patriot Act and the Iraq war just prove he's not a team player. He's putting principles above party, which is exactly how not to get ahead in Washington these days.

He's also fearless about his image. He's willing to spread his message on potentially hostile grounds such as The Colbert Report, Real Time With Bill Maher or the Republican debates.

In the Information Age, you're not likely to see many candidates take such a cavalier attitude. The current administration has taught them to seek familiar, friendly ground before saying anything that passes for substance these days. Surrounding yourself with sycophants, yes-men and screened supporters during the modern campaign is just a rehearsal for the later office.

Though Texans especially should have an appreciation for a straight-talking rogue, Paul has no realistic chance at nomination, much less election. Not even if he ran against a Clinton-Obama double bill.

But now that Thompson has (finally) formalized his plunge into presidential politics, he might think about taking some lessons from the contrarian Paul.

Thompson's running mate no matter who else joins the ticket is the ghost of Ronald Reagan. This would be the same Reagan who bucked his party by running for the 1968 and 1976 Republican nominations as the conservative alternative.

Reagan got elected in 1980 by finding a way to build a bridge between the "Religious Right" and low-tax libertarians, but he made his career with a rabble-rousing speech in support of Barry Goldwater's failed 1964 campaign.

The Republicans also seem to forget that they achieved power in 1994 by speaking their mind and promising policies that would return the country to congressional sobriety.

Thompson appears to be a fine federalist with charisma to spare. Here's hoping that he'll follow his convictions and become a strong presence and strong leader, able to convince others that his is the right path, rather than just being obstinate.

Virgil noted that "fortune favors the bold." Looking at Ron Paul, that may not be true.

But Paul's boldness could help rattle the conventional wisdom of today's Republicans and elevate the national discourse and direction. If so, he's the most important man in the race.

Even if nobody votes for him.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; keywordvandalabcdefg; kucinich; paulestinians; rino; ronpaul
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To: traviskicks

I don’t think Ayn Rand would support Ron Paul this time, Saddam did not represent what she would consider a legitimate government and therefore had no right to continue to rule Iraq, the only question is whether invading Iraq was in our National interest, since it was we had every right to remove Saddam.


21 posted on 09/09/2007 5:53:42 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: counterpunch
I think the MSM is still on a mission to convince the rest of the country Iowans are too stupid to have the first primary .(I know caucus smaukus maybe they have a point)
22 posted on 09/09/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
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To: mylife

GOOD ONE!!!

23 posted on 09/09/2007 5:54:54 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: dirtboy
I don’t see Texas in Sam Houston’s and Davy Crockett’s day being anything comparable to Iraq, however. I think your analogy is quite strained. Quite strained, especially now that the same neighbor is an enemy to U.S. borders and sovereignty, and proves it on a daily basis.
24 posted on 09/09/2007 5:57:17 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Grunthor

I like RP’s limited gov’t ideas, we need more of them but his support among the truther community turns me off. After every straw poll or debate Alex jones is on the air proving that no one voted for anyone but RP and all the votes were stolen by the golablists and Masons


25 posted on 09/09/2007 5:58:28 PM PDT by NCBraveheart
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To: John Leland 1789
I think your analogy is quite strained.

Hardly, especially given the claim that Paul represents Texas values. Ol' Ron would have advocated moving back to Tennessee.

26 posted on 09/09/2007 6:00:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: frankiep

We shall see, there is a very intense national grass roots effort working in his favor, which I suspect will eventually translate into some sort of movement in the polls. For example, here is a recent article, front page in today’s Las Vegas Review Journal, appearing as a result of the efforts of our local Las Vegas Ron Paul meetup group:

http://www.lvrj.com/news/9676197.html#blogcomments

This sort of stuff is happening across the country, see the 2nd article in post 7.


27 posted on 09/09/2007 6:00:21 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Timeo Danaos et donos ferentes.

When a liberal reporter pretends to give conservatives advice, watch out. His intentions are not kindly.


28 posted on 09/09/2007 6:02:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NCBraveheart
I like RP’s limited gov’t ideas, we need more of them but his support among the truther community turns me off.

For what it's worth, he has denounced them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul

Denies involvement in 9/11 conspiracy theories

Some have claimed that Paul believes that the attack on the World Trade Center was a part of a government conspiracy, and associated him with "9/11 truthers." However, Paul has explicitly denied this. On the Mike Gallagher radio show on July 19, 2007 he said "Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that, and I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that's not my position. I do think government's basically inept. I mean we were spending $40 billion a year collecting intelligence and a lot of information was out there. We had one FBI agent, I think sent dozens and dozens of memos to his superiors saying that there are people trying to fly airplanes but not land them, and nobody would pay any attention. So, I don't think that's a conspiracy. I think that's a lot of bureaucracy that doesn't work very well. And, then when we have government investigations, whether it's 9/11 or assassinations, I think the main goal is to protect the government and to protect their ineptness - not - and that is a lot different than saying 'Oh they conspired to do this so they can use this as an excuse to spread the war in the Middle East whether they had anything to do with 9/11 or not.' I don't see it that way. But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity. But, it wasn't something that was deliberately done." [40] When Paul was asked by Shawn Wasson in an interview on LiveLeak.com if he believed that "9/11 was orchestrated by the government," Paul responded emphatically, "Absolutely not."[41] Paul was again asked in an interview on Fox news on August 5 if he agreed with the conspiracy theorists; he explicitly said that he does not believe that 9/11 was a government conspiracy and that he does not think the government would stage an attack.[42]
29 posted on 09/09/2007 6:05:00 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Hate to say it, but more like the Little General Perot!


30 posted on 09/09/2007 6:05:53 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: traviskicks
But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity.

Sounds like LIHOP to me - let it happen on purpose. In other words, truther.

31 posted on 09/09/2007 6:06:26 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: traviskicks

I used to support Ron Paul before I found out that he was right about Iraq all along.


32 posted on 09/09/2007 6:14:41 PM PDT by JTN (‘We achieve much more in peace than…unconstitutional, undeclared wars’ - Dr. Paul)
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To: dirtboy
Sounds like LIHOP to me - let it happen on purpose. In other words, truther.

Where, other than your paranoid fantasies, did you find support for that?

33 posted on 09/09/2007 6:17:27 PM PDT by JTN (‘We achieve much more in peace than…unconstitutional, undeclared wars’ - Dr. Paul)
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To: traviskicks
John McCain still speaks with conviction, but everyone seems disinterested in hearing what their cranky grandfather has to say about military strategy and the uselessness of torture.

It is hard to take seriously any columnist who does not understand the difference between disinterested and uninterested. The former simply means unbiased; i.e. having no vested interest in the outcome: The judge recused himself because he held stock in the company being sued, so he could not be entirely disinterested.

Yes, some dictionaries have recently shown "lacking in interest" as a definition of disinterested. But they are merely reflecting an increasingly common (but still substandard) usage.

34 posted on 09/09/2007 6:17:30 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: JTN
Try Paul's own words. Once again:

But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity.

Which to me is an embrace of the LIHOP mentality.

35 posted on 09/09/2007 6:21:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: dirtboy

Shouldn’t truther be capitalized and romanized?

TRVTHER


36 posted on 09/09/2007 6:22:42 PM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant -15)
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To: JTN; George W. Bush; NCBraveheart

Did you know Ron Paul is on the O’Reilly Factor tommorrow night? Should be fun to watch... :)


37 posted on 09/09/2007 6:22:42 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Petronski

hey, im thirsty again, where’s my koolaid? :)


38 posted on 09/09/2007 6:23:20 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Petronski

Note that nowhere in the Wiki entry does Paul even attempt to reject LIHOP - just MIHOP. Couple that with his claim that some are exploiting it, and he sure does seem like he buys into LIHOP.


39 posted on 09/09/2007 6:24:15 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: traviskicks

“He’s putting principles above party”
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yeah...islamic principles. Yeah let’s give them what they want and they will leave us alone!


40 posted on 09/09/2007 6:27:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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