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Graduates Know Even Less About History (Take The Quiz!)
Madison.com ^ | September 19, 2007 | Anita Weier

Posted on 09/19/2007 5:48:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The University of Wisconsin-Madison did relatively well in a 50-college test of how much students learned about history and economics during four years of college, but students in Wisconsin and nationally knew little when they came in and not much more when they left. No college did better than a D-plus on the Civic Literacy Test released Tuesday by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, a nonpartisan conservative educational organization that stresses the values of a free society.

The national average was F.

The test of 14,000 randomly selected students revealed that some of the most expensive Ivy League universities, with the highest-paid presidents and largest government subsidies, were the worst-performing, the institute found.

Overall, the nation's freshmen and seniors scored slightly more than 50 percent on the 60-question exam. The institute said that a kindergartner would have scored about 20 percent correct just by guessing.

The study tested freshmen and seniors at the colleges and universities, in order to determine how much history they learned there. The researchers did not test the same students in freshmen and senior years, but those who were freshmen and seniors in the same year.

Eastern Connecticut State University ranked first, by adding 9.65 percentage points to the score from freshman to senior year. Marian College, a private school in Fond du Lac, was second, with a 9.44 percentage point gain, while the University of Wisconsin-Madison ranked 15th, gaining 6.3 percentage points.

UW-Madison and Marian College were the only Wisconsin schools tested.

Living in the present

Asked about the exercise, David McDonald, chairman of the History Department at UW-Madison, termed the test interesting but questioned the institute's conclusions.

Students generally learn basic history in high school, he said, adding that they often study historical details in order to pass college entry exams, but then go on to pursue other knowledge at the college level.

"Colleges reflect general attitudes and patterns in society. This is not a historically oriented society. We look at quarterly reports instead of long trends. There is a lot of emphasis on living in the present, and not a great deal of understanding of larger historical patterns," said McDonald, who grew up in Canada but got just three wrong on the American history exam.

"There is a mythical past in which everyone knew this material. If you are from a well-to-do household with well-educated parents, you will do well on this and other academic areas. Students should probably know the sequence of events in the Civil War. But is it more important for Americans to know that John Locke was a major influence on the Declaration of Independence or that they have a strong understanding of their rights and be willing to act on them?"

Students at several expensive universities, including Yale, Cornell, Princeton and Duke, actually lost ground during four years of college education.

But the median score of students at those prestigious universities was higher than most colleges where students gained more knowledge during their college career.

For instance, freshman at Yale got 68.94 percent of the answers right and those at Cornell got 61.9 percent correct, though seniors did worse in both cases.

UW-Madison freshmen scored 51.57 percent correct and seniors got 57.87 percent. At Marian College, freshmen scored just 33.66 percent and seniors 43.10 percent.

Gorbachev who?

The test consisted of 60 multiple-choice questions about America's history, government, international relations and economics. The test, the answers and the results at the various colleges can be found online at http://www.americancivicliteracy.org

Typical questions included: "The Constitution of the United States established what form of government?" and "Which wall was President Reagan referring to when he said, 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall'?" The test also included some questions on the U.S. economy and political philosophy.

"The evidence from our ongoing research shows that colleges, especially the most expensive and elite schools, are failing to advance students' knowledge of America's history, government and free market economics and consequently not preparing their students to be informed and engaged citizens," said Josiah Bunting III, chairman of ISI's National Civic Literacy Board.

"The time has come for higher education's key decision-makers -- state legislators, trustees, donors, alumni, faculty, students' parents -- to hold the nation's colleges and their presidents accountable for teaching their students America's history and institutions."

McDonald said nationwide, students who took the test did well on questions regarding Abraham Lincoln, the New Deal and Brown vs. Board of Education, and did worst on the Revolutionary War, Plato and the requirement for a just war, a question that he said was strangely phrased.

Students who study history in college learn that events are the results of several levels of cause, and that people are products of their times, McDonald said.

"They learn that evidence must be scrutinized and viewed with skepticism," he said. "Our job is to produce people who can do critical thinking, who are aware that they hold certain views and understand why."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: academia; amiabledunces; civicstest; competency; educatedmorons; highereducation; hillsdale; historyeducation; illiteracy; madisonwi
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, if they had thrown in a few ClearCase questions, or maybe a little kshell scripting, we would have whipped them all.


61 posted on 09/19/2007 6:27:56 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I averaged at 75%

Man that quiz went on forever. I would have gotten a couple more right if I had applied a little patience, but hey they get whut they pay fer.

62 posted on 09/19/2007 6:27:56 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Did you know that everyday mexican gays sneak into this country and unplug our brain dead ladies HJS)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What fun! I only scored 98.33% ‘cause I got one wrong..... :^(

I am devastated.


63 posted on 09/19/2007 6:28:10 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I got two questions wrong. One was a question on incomes (and I would argue that one), the other was about the Federal Reserve. The history questions were ridiculously easy.


64 posted on 09/19/2007 6:28:17 PM PDT by Alain Chartier
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Got 85%


65 posted on 09/19/2007 6:28:17 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

51 out of 60 correctly — 85.00 %


66 posted on 09/19/2007 6:28:39 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You answered 40 out of 60 correctly — 66.67 %
Average score for this quiz during September: 75.0%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 75.0%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.


67 posted on 09/19/2007 6:29:45 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I'M WITH FRED!)
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To: Rome2000

Yes, that was my problem too. I think they were looking for a very pedantic definitiion of ‘public good’ from classic economics.

The other one I got wrong, I misread one of the possible answers.


68 posted on 09/19/2007 6:29:51 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Grizzled Bear; Diana in Wisconsin; Petronski

FR is great, and we learn from here. Some of the questions I missed were second nature. I guessed when I should have given it some thought. Of course I’m the only one who would be knowing my grade! LOL (Thanks Petronski.....) :^)


69 posted on 09/19/2007 6:29:57 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: proxy_user
Truth is, my ClearCase skills are getting rusty. My current gig thinks Microsoft SharePoint is a version control tool. Shudder.
70 posted on 09/19/2007 6:30:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You answered 48 out of 60 correctly — 80.00 %
Average score for this quiz during September: 75.0%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 75.0%

Hmm...
must do better

71 posted on 09/19/2007 6:31:16 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Amazing how much stuff I have forgotten. I got 49 out of 60 for a score of 81.67%.

My only consolation is that in reviewing my results I found that I misread one question (maybe I need glasses) and clicked the wrong answer on one (haste makes waste). The others I plead guilty on.

72 posted on 09/19/2007 6:31:32 PM PDT by Pablo64 (National Alpaca Farm Day is 9-29-07. Visit an alpaca farm near you!)
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To: Caramelgal

Hey, you kicked UC Berkely’s A$$!


73 posted on 09/19/2007 6:32:06 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
There is a mythical past in which everyone knew this material.

Well, I must have lived in that "mythical past" because I got 58/60 about as fast as I could read and type. Dumbshit college teacher lives in the present and thinks everyone else always has too.

74 posted on 09/19/2007 6:32:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: eyedigress; Diana in Wisconsin; Petronski

I might have gotten an 80% but I second guessed myself on a few answers and changed them.

I guess I gots to go back to FReeping Skewl!

;-)


75 posted on 09/19/2007 6:33:07 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I seriously doubt Congress as a whole would rate more than a D on this exam. A passing grade on this exam should be the minimum requirement to hold any elective office in this country.


76 posted on 09/19/2007 6:34:01 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You answered 52 out of 60 correctly — 86.67 %
Average score for this quiz during September: 75.0%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 75.0%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.
If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org.
You can consult the following table to see how freshmen and seniors scored on each question as part of the survey administration.
Where to from here?
Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #19 - C. philosopher kings.
Question #31 - A. Edmund Burke argued that society consists of a union of past, present, and future generations.
Question #33 - C. To receive ambassadors.
Question #35 - A. discouraged new colonies in the Western hemisphere.
Question #36 - D. The authority of a legitimate sovereign.
Question #54 - D. can be reversed by government spending more than it taxes.
Question #58 - B. An increase in the volume of commercial bank loans.
Question #60 - B. social security.

I was going to use a couple of these, but I didn’t...shucks!


77 posted on 09/19/2007 6:34:29 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“You answered 52 out of 60 correctly — 86.67 %”

Thank you.


78 posted on 09/19/2007 6:34:34 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: Grizzled Bear

I got 7/8 on the 8th grade test. Got the question about the Mayflower Compact wrong.


79 posted on 09/19/2007 6:34:34 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Enchante

Show off! :^)


80 posted on 09/19/2007 6:34:37 PM PDT by eyedigress
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