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To: de meanr
> ...But that's why we have a strong gun lobby. To try to influence the government on these border issues. The problem we have right now is that local government (think Giuliani) has placed futher restrictions on gun ownership rights. To me, gun rights are federal, and the States should have no influence.

Agreed. One picky point: Rights are God-given; the government can only guarantee those rights, it cannot grant them, nor rescind them. (Or conversely, if it does grant them, it can also take them away.) The role of the federal government in that regard is to guarantee, uniformly across all States, the God-given rights described in the Bill of Rights (explicitly and implicitly).

> Generally, this is one of the few things the federal government should be doing (along with immigration, etc) and not leave to the States. As soon as the federal government abdicates its authority, and allows States to limit our federal rights, we are screwed.

Agreed. The only stuff the Fed Gov should involve itself with are those things that affect all States (such as invasions, illegal immigration (but I repeat myself), roads, currency) and the guaranteeing of our God-given rights.

The idea that different States can arbitrarily limit 2nd Amendment rights drives me up a freakin' wall. It's exactly wrong; precisely backwards.

42 posted on 09/24/2007 12:50:52 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Amen, brother.


44 posted on 09/24/2007 1:12:33 AM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty - Thompson/Tancredo '08)
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To: dayglored
The idea that different States can arbitrarily limit 2nd Amendment rights drives me up a freakin' wall. It's exactly wrong; precisely backwards.

Thanks for your common sense posts. I found myself arguing this point with someone here--their argument was that laws made and enforced by the states was all good "federalism." It seemed like a nightmare to me.

115 posted on 09/24/2007 9:03:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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