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Good bye America. We hardly knew ye!
1 posted on 10/04/2007 5:21:38 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage
Democrats can't figure out why we as a country are losing traditions, individual rights, etc.. But we love Hillary and all Dem's because they love us and give welfare, food stamps, housing, etc.. After all, the rich ones are being paying so thats all right.

DIRTY SECRET! They are also taking everything this country stands for..........from everyone.

Don't fret, they will still vote democrat because their parents did. They was(sic) educated in a public school and can't read or comprehend what is happening to the USA..........

2 posted on 10/04/2007 5:36:59 AM PDT by captnorb
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I’m damn tired of our culture getting gutted by the two percenters!

Muslims
Gays
Athiests
etc


3 posted on 10/04/2007 5:38:55 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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I’m not sure how Halloween even belongs in this argument.
4 posted on 10/04/2007 5:41:42 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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RUMORS? It was a done deal, they’ve backed off on it and have looked at adding ramadan (not to be confused with the ISLAMIC holiday of Ramadan).

At ramadan children dress as porky pig and play pin the tail on the donkey. It will become a new American tradition totally unrelated to any religious culture’s holy days.


5 posted on 10/04/2007 5:44:55 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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Some aspects of Halloween are good. Others are sick.
Come costumes are good and fun for kids. The candy and parties are good and fun for kids.
The fixation on death, skeletons, ghosts is sick. The slash “Freddie” movies and TV shows are sick. The fake graves on some peoples’ front lawns are sick. The bloody gruesome costumes are sick.
Not all aspects of American popular culture are good and worth saving.
It’s our fault for emphasizing the sick aspects of this yearly celebration. It’s too late to turn it into a purely fun, healthy thing.
Christmas is coming. THAT needs to be defended from the onslaught by the head-chopping savages and the atheistic left.


6 posted on 10/04/2007 5:45:24 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Gee, I’m surprised that there is consternation from so many.

Usually, around Halloween we’re inundated with missives about how it is the font of evil, it draws people to Satanism, promotes the Wiccan religion, and on, and on, and on.

I guess it’s about whose and which ox is being gorged?


8 posted on 10/04/2007 5:48:24 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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11 posted on 10/04/2007 5:52:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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We have let groups like Muslims take over our culture...we get what we deserve......glad to hear at least SOME parents are mad.


12 posted on 10/04/2007 5:53:10 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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I don't know about this specific school, but a lot of schools stopped talking about "Christmas" years ago and now just have a nondenominational "Winter Holiday". Not that a specific religious holiday has been taken away from anyone! No! No! The Winter Holiday is -- you know -- for everyone. Oh, and by the way, shouldn't we introduce a Muslim Holiday to the school calendar -- you know -- so that we can be inclusive?

Seems pretty obvious to me that this stuff is not about being inoffensive or inclusive. It's about crushing Christianity and western traditions. Very simple.

13 posted on 10/04/2007 5:53:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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The school school encourage classroom discussions during ramadan about why islam’s prophet mouhammad “married” a 9-year-old and whether that was appropriate, safe or moral.


16 posted on 10/04/2007 5:59:43 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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"We should educate our children about all the holidays, equally," she said. "And not to favor one holiday over another."

Just like the Jesuits used to do. "When in the minority, ask for equality. When in the majority, demand primacy!"

18 posted on 10/04/2007 6:01:02 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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At issue is whether Halloween and Christmas celebrations are insensitive to school children who are Muslim.

It's ok to have halloween if it offends Christians but not if it offends muslims.

19 posted on 10/04/2007 6:02:45 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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There’s a relatively simple solution to this; you could follow our family’s lead and boycott all of the secular holidays and by secular I mean the secularized Happy Holiday’s crap; celebrate Epiphany instead. If your a Christian refuse to buy gifts, boycott the stores; emphasise gift giving on Birthdays instead; substitute a “Christian” Holy Day for the secularized “Holidays”. Don’t exchange their stinking “Happy Holidays” non-christian greeting cards. We only exchange Christian Christmas cards with fellow Christians. Freeze ‘em out; boycott their stores!


22 posted on 10/04/2007 6:04:41 AM PDT by glide625
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Elizabeth Zahdan is at the center of the storm, a Muslim mother of three who requested that her children be separated from others at lunch during the Ramadan fast.

You know, I never thought about this before. Do they actually make their small kids fast for Ramadan too? Pretty cruel on its face without sending them to school where all their friends are eating.

25 posted on 10/04/2007 6:08:57 AM PDT by agrace
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My Children's attended an elementary school for several years that has done away with the celebration of all Holidays at the school. No costumes, no candy, no parties. The focus is on academics. They learn about the first Thanksgiving, but do not try to re-create it in the classroom.

My son's high school serves fish every Friday during Lent.

My oldest daughter attended kindergarten at a school which still did celebrate Halloween and Christmas and Thanksgiving, etc. One of her classmates was a Jehovah's Witness, and he sat out every holiday party. There was no fuss...his mother simply came to school and sat with him during the parties.

I believe there are simple ways of solving these problems without fuss.

26 posted on 10/04/2007 6:09:45 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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Still, for many residents the debate took on a nationalistic tone, one of defending America and its traditions.

As I note above, the Imam around the world denounce these traditions (even the spirit of Thanksgiving) BECAUSE it is tied to America.

29 posted on 10/04/2007 6:14:31 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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“At issue is whether Halloween and Christmas celebrations are insensitive to school children who are Muslim.”

If that school in anway support anything Muslims the parents needs to sue for supporting a religion. I am tired of having to set aside American culture for this foreign cult of Islam.


30 posted on 10/04/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by CodeToad
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ping,,,


34 posted on 10/04/2007 6:24:07 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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"If Muslims want the school holidays, menus and school traditions to become tailored to their needs or beliefs, then they should go to private school next to their mosque,"

That says it all. If the Muzzies don't like what their kids are being exposed to in public school let them do like many other parents have done and send their kids to private parochial schools. I'm sure in a madrassa their kids will learn all the important things like intolerance of other beliefs, antisemitism, hatred of all things Western and jihad.

36 posted on 10/04/2007 6:41:09 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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At issue is whether Halloween and Christmas celebrations are insensitive to school children who are Muslim.

What about the Christians and the Jewish kids? Don't they count for anything, or is it just the Muslim kids feelings that are important?

38 posted on 10/04/2007 6:45:10 AM PDT by al_c
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