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The American Dream turns into a debtor's nightmare (for illegals)
LA Times ^ | October 8, 2007 | Jennifer Delson and and Christopher Goffard

Posted on 10/08/2007 8:54:00 AM PDT by LNewman

Soledad Aviles dreamed for years of owning a home, with a plot of land where he could grow corn and chiles as he did in his native Mexico. So he felt blessed last year when he learned he could buy a three-bedroom, single-story stucco house on West La Verne Avenue in Santa Ana.

Referred to a local loan broker by a trusted friend, he borrowed the entire purchase price of $615,000 from Washington Mutual at a high interest rate typical of sub-prime loans. The monthly payment, as he says he understood it, would be $3,600 -- steep for a glass cutter who made $9 an hour -- but Aviles counted on his wife and three of his six daughters, who also worked low-paying jobs, to contribute.

"We took out our pencils, figured out our take-home pay and figured out that if we all pitched in, it would work," said Aviles, 54, a stoop-shouldered, soft-spoken man with a sixth-grade education from Mexico.

Relying on the broker's word, he signed loan documents written in English, a language he neither speaks nor reads, Aviles said. He was shocked to learn afterward that the monthly payment would not be $3,600, but $4,800 -- a price that forced him to rent out bedrooms, the garage and an enclosed porch while he and his wife slept on the couch. He fed his family with food from friends and corn he grew.

... The state Department of Real Estate, nonprofits and the Mexican consulate also have reported a rise in mortgage complaints, many of them from homeowners saying they signed documents they didn't understand.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; century21; crimaliens; foreignspeculators; frauds; housing; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; washingtonmutual
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This article repeats the euphemism "first-generation immigrant" multiple times and then says the Mexican consulate reports a rise in mortgage complaints. Rich!
1 posted on 10/08/2007 8:54:02 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman

Why wish for a plot of land where he can grow chiles like he did in Mexico, when he can do it IN Mexico? Go home, and fix up your own country.


2 posted on 10/08/2007 8:57:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
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To: LNewman

My heart cries for you...
My experience is that they did understand everything..they may be Mexican, but they aren’t stupid.


3 posted on 10/08/2007 8:59:22 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: LNewman

Where’s that violin when ya need it?


4 posted on 10/08/2007 8:59:31 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
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To: LNewman
When illegals are buying $600,000 houses making $9/hour - we are in the biggest housing bubble in the history of the world...
5 posted on 10/08/2007 8:59:53 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: LNewman
"Referred to a local loan broker by a trusted friend, he borrowed the entire purchase price of $615,000 from Washington Mutual at a high interest rate typical of sub-prime loans."

That's the kind of place I'd buy to grow corn and chiles!!

While you're dreaming - might as well go for broke.

6 posted on 10/08/2007 9:00:22 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: LNewman

What kind of moron who makes $9 a hour borrows $620,000? Seriously - just go away. Am I supposed to feel bad for him?

I make close to three times that, and I know that I can’t even afford to borrow the $250,000ish that it would cost to buy a condo around here.


7 posted on 10/08/2007 9:00:57 AM PDT by furquhart (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: Calpernia; cbkaty; Nervous Tick; ex-Texan

Mortgage/Credit/Housing Ping List
If you want on or off this ping list, let me know.


8 posted on 10/08/2007 9:01:10 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: LNewman

Will the Democrats bail him out?


9 posted on 10/08/2007 9:01:17 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: LNewman

My heart cries for you...
My experience is that they did understand everything..they may be Mexican, but they aren’t stupid.
This is a good example of how 100% mortgages to unqualified buyers drove up the price of housing in poor areas of CA and drove out legitimate responsible buyers.
I just hope that WAMU takes a big hit on this and stops this kind of practice.
An illegal alien displaced a legal working in the quest for the American Dream.


10 posted on 10/08/2007 9:02:53 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: LNewman

I’ve never heard “first generation immigrant” before. I thought it was “first generation citizen.” That would be an anchor baby, or the child of legal immigrants.


11 posted on 10/08/2007 9:03:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: All

I am sure you all have noticed the increase in sob stories involving illegals(called everything but illegal by the DBM)since we defeated, once again, an amnesty attempt. Everytime we stop an amnesty bill they bring out the sob stories about the poor, hard working illegals who should be given a chance. I say fine, send them home and give them a chance to straighten out their own country. Works for me.


12 posted on 10/08/2007 9:03:25 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Oldexpat
Pretty stupid to sign a legal document in a language you don't understand.

My experience is that they did understand everything..they may be Mexican, but they aren’t stupid.

13 posted on 10/08/2007 9:04:20 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 2banana
Speaking of Guiness Book housing bubbles ... the article goes on to state:

"But amid the storm of foreclosures, his story illustrates the special vulnerabilities of first-generation immigrants in places like predominantly Latino Santa Ana, where city leaders have identified about 800 sub-prime borrowers facing the potential loss of their homes."

14 posted on 10/08/2007 9:05:33 AM PDT by LNewman (EAGLES UP!)
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Soledad Aviles dreamed for years of owning a home, ....snip....but Aviles counted on his wife and three of his six daughters who also worked....snip....he signed loan documents written in English, a language he neither speaks nor reads,

So, he's been here for years, has at least 3 daughters old enough to work, and STILL can't read or speak English - that's his ENTIRE problem!!! If I moved to Mexico and lived there for years, you damn-well had better believe that I would have learned to speak Spanish the first year!!

15 posted on 10/08/2007 9:05:38 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: LNewman
We solved our overrun county problem — The deputy sheriffs now arrests illegals, turn them over to ICE, quickly deported. Poof problem gone -- crime down, school over crowding fixed, traffic problem fixed, welfare lines cleared, illegals walking the neighborhood knocking on the door asking for work or easy mark gone. And best of all, the demand for more county taxes, poof, gone.

You can fix your problem too, just go to the locally elected sheriff and inquire. Training is free from ICE for the sheriff’s deputies. County wide elected Sheriffs are great -- And they have jurisdiction in the entire county, even sanctuary cities. Having the sheriff's deputies trained is good enough to empty your county of illegals, without lifting a finger. Fear is a wonderful thing.

16 posted on 10/08/2007 9:07:06 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: LNewman

Not one of his daughters could read English? Could he not go to a mortgage calculator and figure it out?

Not mentioned in the article is the fact that California’s environmental laws and zoning restrictions have reduced the available supply of housing drastically raising prices.

Also in the article:
“Aviles says he was not aware that the February 2006 loan application he signed dramatically exaggerated his family’s income. The application lists him as the owner of a landscaping business with a $7,400 monthly income. His 27-year-old daughter Marlene, who earns $9 an hour in a noodle factory, appears as the owner of a housecleaning company who makes $5,700 a month. The application lists their yearly income as $157,000, when, according to Aviles, it was really closer to $60,000.”


17 posted on 10/08/2007 9:08:05 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Oldexpat
"This is a good example of how 100% mortgages to unqualified buyers drove up the price of housing in poor areas of CA and drove out legitimate responsible buyers."

I know. My area is absolutely lousy with these examples!

18 posted on 10/08/2007 9:08:38 AM PDT by LNewman (EAGLES UP!)
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To: LNewman

Even more alarming is that legitimate US citizens are having similar problems.


19 posted on 10/08/2007 9:11:35 AM PDT by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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To: Kimberly GG

20 posted on 10/08/2007 9:13:20 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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