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Muslims Leaders Warn Pope 'Survival of World' at Stake
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Posted on 10/11/2007 6:28:34 AM PDT by vharlow

Muslims Leaders Warn Pope 'Survival of World' at Stake

Thursday, October 11, 2007

The "survival of the world" is at stake if Muslims and Christians do not make peace with each other, leaders of the Muslim world will warn the Pope and other Christian leaders today.

In an unprecedented open letter signed by 138 leading scholars from every sect of Islam, the Muslims plead with Christian leaders "to come together with us on the common essentials of our two religions" and spell out the similarities between passages of the Bible and the Koran.

The scholars state: "As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes."

The phrasing has echoes of the New Testament passage: "He that is not with me is against me" - a passage used by President George Bush when addressing a joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11.

The Muslims call instead for the emphasis to be on the shared characteristics of world's two largest faiths.

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Nice, huh? We are being warned.

1 posted on 10/11/2007 6:28:39 AM PDT by vharlow
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To: vharlow

muslim leaders need to recall all muslims home to mecca.


2 posted on 10/11/2007 6:31:06 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: vharlow
"... so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes."

What? Like you Muzzies are doing to Christians wherever you are??? Eff off.

3 posted on 10/11/2007 6:31:19 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: edcoil

We don’t need their contributions over here, thanks.


4 posted on 10/11/2007 6:33:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: vharlow

What a load of hooey. Islam has some housecleaning to do before it can come to the table with that. I can see the NCC and WCC negotiating: “If you stop beheading us, we’ll stop calling you names!”


5 posted on 10/11/2007 6:33:12 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: vharlow

I wonder if the Pope will tell these barbarians to STFU and convert to Christianity?


6 posted on 10/11/2007 6:33:31 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: vharlow

Islam is not against any religion willing to whore its women to Islam, enslave itself body and soul to Islam, bleed itself and it’s progeny to Islam, and basically strangle itself to death in the name of Islam.

It looks to me like many in Christianity are more than willing to accept this bargain.


7 posted on 10/11/2007 6:34:09 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: vharlow
The "survival of the world" is at stake if Muslims and Christians do not make peace with each other,

Important note

To Muslims...

PEACE means surrender and/or submission to Islamic law...

It does NOT mean benign co-existence...
Or live and let live...
Or any other bad-theology Bush-isms...

8 posted on 10/11/2007 6:34:43 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: vharlow

Oh the muslims are the ones who starts all the trouble...


9 posted on 10/11/2007 6:34:56 AM PDT by angelcindy (Where's the Fence?????)
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To: vharlow

These Muslim “leaders” would do better to direct their appeals to mullahs in the Middle East who are encouraging the murder and oppression of their Christian neighbors.


10 posted on 10/11/2007 6:35:09 AM PDT by Crush T Velour
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To: vharlow
Pope Benedict to Mose Limbs: "God Wills It!"


11 posted on 10/11/2007 6:35:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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If they would stop the head-chopping, female mutilation, mass murder, forced conversions, killing converts from their cult, learn to live in peace and harmony with civilized people, stop blaming Christians and Jews for their problems, stop killing Christians and Jews, maybe they would be welcome in civilized society.


12 posted on 10/11/2007 6:36:23 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (what? the mass deportation hasn't begun yet?)
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To: vharlow

Is this the same religion that says that there is no need to honor agreements with infidels? That it is ok to lie or disregard treaties? Isn’t treaty-making a tool of war to allow resupply/regrouping for many in this religion?


13 posted on 10/11/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: John Valentine

I think someone ought to tell these guys that the POPE doesn’t speak for Americans, doesn’t speak for most protestants, and is only the leader concerning spiritual things, not political.


14 posted on 10/11/2007 6:37:37 AM PDT by vharlow (http://www.vventures.net)
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To: vharlow

Remind me again who’s chopping whose heads off?


15 posted on 10/11/2007 6:37:42 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

based on experience, this could be considered a threat.


16 posted on 10/11/2007 6:38:11 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy.)
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To: vharlow
The scholars state: "As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes."

Of course - Muslims are free do whatever they want to Christians

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. Easter celebrations are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the "holy" muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.

Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith (up to and including death). Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the "Regulation of Religious Practice" law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years' imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.

Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as "posing a threat to the relations among religious groups" and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.

Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain. Also, if any criminal Muslim rape with any Christian female and then take plea that she has accepted Islam and marry with him. Such person is not culpable under Pakistani criminal law

Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.

Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and--in the most extreme application--death. In a country where Muslims account for more than half of the population, conversion from Islam is punished with a 5-year prison sentence and a $3,000 fine. A Malaysian Muslim who marries a non-Muslim and who converts the non-Muslim to Islam is rewarded with an apartment, a car, a one-time payment of $2,700, and a monthly stipend of $270.

The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.

England - Bradford, Yorkshire, UK. Pop. 300,000 - 20% Islamic. Local police required to tell community elders the location of girls who run away to escape arranged marriages. Bars and liquor stores in the Lumb Lane / Manningham Lane area of the city ‘requested’ to close on Fridays. Schools, colleges, and health clinics have to have separate areas for women, with a copy of the Koran available. Public critcism of Islam or it’s adherents, such as letters to the local paper, emails to friends, speeches etc, can and has led to criminal charges ‘Using words intentionally and wilfully to cause fear, hate, or distress. Christmas decorations not to be put up, as this may make the Moslems feel ‘culturally overshadowed’. Shops ‘requested’ not to display easter eggs for the same reason. The term ‘requested’ means not legally enforceable but local police warn that they cannot intervene if your premises get ‘damaged’ somehow. Local councillors and MPs have encouraged all this for the past 15 years. Bradford Northwest MP Ann Cryer regularly appears with long sleeves and her head covered. She once stated that women in Islam are properly liberated and that Islam is an example to us all.

17 posted on 10/11/2007 6:38:42 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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"As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes."

Hypocritical bastards. When they clean up their act in Asia Minor; when they rein in HAMAS, FATAH, Al Queda, MILF, Taliban, and all the rest of the murdering mohammedan scum that are persecuing Christians and Jews all over the world ... then they can come back and talk about Christians not waging war against mohammedans.

Until then, they can Piss OFF!

18 posted on 10/11/2007 6:38:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Actually it is the survival of Western Civilization that is at stake including Judeo-Christian values as well as Christianity and Judaism as religions. The Koran calls for conversion of the whole world to Islam and it is only what means that are used to complete this conversion that are in question.
19 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:28 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: vharlow

Just FYI, the Pope was most recently in the news for objecting to some or other intransigence on the part of Amahdinutjob ...


20 posted on 10/11/2007 6:41:33 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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