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To: XeniaSt

Paganism was codified during Constantine’s reign, in the sense that images were brought into the churches and given Christian names, in order to get more pagans to convert to “Christianity.” But I wouldn’t call worshiping on Sunday, the doctrine of the Trinity, and the observance of Easter and Christmas pagan. Those of us who worship on Sunday (and I am one, since I am Southern Baptist) do so because Jesus rose from the dead on Sunday. I know that the word “Trinity” is not in the Bible, but the concept of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit clesrly is. Easter celebrates Christ’s resurrection, and Christmas celebrates His birth.


363 posted on 02/27/2008 12:04:53 AM PST by kevinw
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To: kevinw
Paganism was codified during Constantine’s reign, in the sense that images were brought into the churches and given Christian names, in order to get more pagans to convert to “Christianity.” But I wouldn’t call worshiping on Sunday, the doctrine of the Trinity, and the observance of Easter and Christmas pagan. Those of us who worship on Sunday (and I am one, since I am Southern Baptist) do so because Jesus rose from the dead on Sunday. I know that the word “Trinity” is not in the Bible, but the concept of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit clesrly is. Easter celebrates Christ’s resurrection, and Christmas celebrates His birth.

363 posted on 02/27/2008 1:04:53 AM MST by kevinw

Paganism was codified during Constantine’s reign, in the sense that images
were brought into the churches and given Christian names,
in order to get more pagans to convert to “Christianity.”

Only if you believe in the power of man and reject Yah'shua
who said preach his Word and those who have been preselected will be His.

But I wouldn’t call worshiping on Sunday, pagan.

NAsbU Deuteronomy 5:12 'Observe the sabbath day to keep it holy, as the LORD your God commanded you.
Constantine at Nicea as the leader of the Roman church rejected
the YHvH commanded feast of Passover and replaced it with
the Pagan feast of Easter on a different date.

Within a hundred years the pagan feast of Christmas was codified to replace Chanukah.

The question is whether you believe and trust
the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1
or you trust the traditions of man

Yah'shua's birth on Sukkot (September 26 at sundown to October 3 2007)
(Sukkot is the Feast of Tabernacles or booths, where we live in temporary shelters.
Sukkot is when YHvH took on a temporary garment to be with His People
and to die as the Lamb of G-d on Pesach in order to bring salvation to all
who would call on His Name : Yah'shua ( YHvH is become my salvation)).

Sukkot as the date is supported by Elizabeth's pregnancy of John the Immerser.
The time sequence is outlined by the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1 with Zacharias.

Zacharias served as a high priest and based on his tribe, we know when he served
(1 Chronicles 24:7-18) and when he was struck dumb and when John was conceived.

John would have been born on Pesach. Most Jews believed that Elijah
would come at Pesach to announce the coming of the Messiah (Malachi 4:5).

Factor in when Miriam visited her cousin Elizabeth,
Elizabeth was six months pregnant (Luke 1:26)
Thus the timing of Yah'shua's birth can be ascertained.

John (1:14) tells us that Yah'shua was made flesh and tabernacled among us.

Eight days after the beginning of Sukkot is another Holy Feast Day called Shemini Atzeret.

Eight days after a Jewish male is born he is circumcised.

After the Eighth day comes the the most Joyous day:
Simchat Torah or
the rejoicing in the Torah (The Word of Elohim).

Nine months back from Sukkot is Chanukah where the light entered the temple.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
364 posted on 02/27/2008 5:02:30 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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