It's Wrong for the Right to be Rudyphobic

National Review Online ^ | October 12, 2007 | Deroy Murdock

[calcowgirl]

They still seem to be around. I saw one this morning telling the same old lies about Reagan being pro-abortion.

It looked like a sure-fire approach to freepercide. ;-)

[wagglebee]

I’m with you. And as others have pointed out, the “lesser” of two evils is often far worse than the most evil. If Rooty is elected, the GOP in Congress will find it nearly impossible to stand up to him.

[dforest]

That would be the altar of the perfect imperfection. We just have to get used to these Rooty word games. LOL

[wagglebee]

A typical Reagan bashing post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1911425/posts?page=75#75

[dforest]

They try to use the liberal tactic of equating their Liberal Rudy the RINO candidate, to Ronald Reagan.

What an insult and a joke.

[wagglebee]

Whether they have an “R” or a “D” after their names, liberals are all the same, they will stoop to projection every time.

[dforest]

Problem they have is they are trying those tactics on conservatives.

I tell them that it may be true that in his younger years he was pro choice. He changed his belief on that well before he ran. And also Rooty ain’t no Reagan. The comparison is absurd.

[Man50D]

Rudy is wrong on abortion but Rudy is no socialist.

Think again. Below are some comments by and about Giuliani along with a list of issues comparing his positions with Hitlery.

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

-On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

[wagglebee]

Reagan was very reluctant about signing a very restrictive abortion bill and this was BEFORE Roe v. Wade. Once he saw the effects of Roe v. Wade he immediately became pro-life.

Rooty has had almost 35 years and 50 MILLION DEATHS to rethink his position and he remains as pro-death as ever. Trying to compare Reagan and Rooty on abortion is as profane as trying to compare St. Paul and Nero on Christianity.

[mimaw]

Doesn’t an amendment require a 2/3 majority?

[wagglebee]

Two-thirds of the states, NOT two-thirds of the population.

[dforest]

Rooty has had almost 35 years and 50 MILLION DEATHS to rethink his position and he remains as pro-death as ever. Trying to compare Reagan and Rooty on abortion is as profane as trying to compare St. Paul and Nero on Christianity.

The woman involved in Roe v. Wade has come out to be a big defender of life. But not Rooty.

Rooty takes abortion even farther by believing it would be okay for taxpayer funded abortion.

I don't want my tax money going to pay for the murder of unborn babies.

[Psycho_Bunny]

There won’t be a national GOP left after Bush gets out of office.

[bpop]

So your solution is not to vote or waste your vote, elect Hillary Clinton, and watch as we return to the days of confiscatory taxes, a military that is too weak to defend the nation, a judiciary that views the Constitution as a work in progress, and the expansion of government into every nook and cranny of your life?

There is absolutely nothing liberal about Giuliani’s views on the role of the federal government, taxes, spending, crime, immigration (post 9-11),separation of powers, national defense, the war, islamo-fascism, pornography, and a host of other issues. SoCons fixate on abortion, homosexual civil unions, and his personal life and scream liberal.

Believe me, we fiscal conservatives know all about holding our noses and voting for a less than perfect candidate. After all, we voted for Bush twice, the most profligate President in history!

[darkangel82]

*yawn*
We’ve heard all the RINO talking points before.

[calcowgirl]

Actually, he was NEVER pro-choice.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=1797#1797

[Man50D]

Religious Right leaders should study Giuliani’s entire socially conservative record...

The term socially conservative is a bunch of baloney. It implies one can also be fiscally liberal(aka socialist) at the same time. It is impossible to support those issues that oppose socialism while supporting spending boat loads of taxpayer dollars on issues favored by socialists! Social conservative is another deceptive politically correct term used by socialists to disguise themselves as conservatives. Either you are a conservative or you are a socialist.

[Man50D]

The ONLY differences between Rooty Toot and Hitlery is that he has an "R" after his name is willing to put on a dress.

Bingo!

[bpop]

What then is Bush? Spends money light it falls out of thin air, but wears his SoCon bonafides on his sleeve.

Liberal or conservative?

[wagglebee]

The Rooty Rooters are just like any other liberals, they don’t care about the facts and when confronted they resort to projection.