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Groups call for 'civil' immigration debate
Orange County (CA) Register ^ | Thursday, October 18, 2007 | Vanja Petrovic

Posted on 10/18/2007 4:09:25 PM PDT by LNewman

Web site names Jim Gilchrist, Lou Dobbs as 'voices of intolerance.'

WASHINGTON – A coalition of human rights and labor groups have begun a campaign to counter what they call the "vile and vicious" rhetoric of the anti-illegal immigration movement and "recapture the civility of discussion and debate" on the issue of comprehensive immigration reform.

The campaign, called Campaign for a United America, launched Wednesday with the release of its Web site. As part of their work, the coalition will give tool kits to community groups that include sample letters to the editor and instructions on constructive meeting techniques.

"Today we begin this process – which is going to be a long process – of reclaiming a values-based dialogue, to put it in our nation's character, the one that respects the contributions of all our community members, including immigrants," said David Ostendorf, executive director of the Chicago-based Center for New Community, one of the groups that forms the coalition.

The campaign has declined to disclose its stance on comprehensive immigration reform, and Ostendorf says it is not the group's aim to push one side or the other. However, the group does list the founders and leaders of such anti-illegal immigration organizations as the Minuteman Project, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, or FAIR, and commentator Lou Dobbs as "Voices of Intolerance."

Rusty Kennedy, executive director of the Orange County Human Relations Commission, said any improvement on the current discussion of immigration, which he described as an "angry vilification of human beings," would benefit the country ...

The campaign's Web site includes sections on what the campaign considers people who have had either a positive or negative influence on the debate. The section with negative profiles includes Orange County's Jim Gilchrist, president of the Minuteman Project.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; fair; immigrantlist; immigration; loudobbs; minutemen
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The "campaign's" web site is here:

Campaign for a United America

1 posted on 10/18/2007 4:09:28 PM PDT by LNewman
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They’re not talking about calling patriots “nativists” “racists” etc are they?


2 posted on 10/18/2007 4:11:33 PM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: LNewman

How about some civility from the other side: a pledge not to call anyone ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobic’ or any other epithet suggesting irrational hatred of Latin Americans simply because the person wants everyone entering or remaining in the United States to do so in accordance with the laws of the United States would, if abided by, bring a great deal of civility to the discussion of the issue.


3 posted on 10/18/2007 4:13:16 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: LNewman

Sounds like another anti-American hate group

I wonder what they think of La Raza (The Race)? I think a group that promotes racial superiority and reconquista of US land would be “intolerant”

I am tire of pro-illegal/anti-American groups


4 posted on 10/18/2007 4:13:39 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: LNewman

Okay.....let’s forget about the jobs thing. That’s not the real issue, here.

Let’s focus on identity theft, drug smuggling, terrorist smuggling, increasing crime rates across the board, theft of services.....

And I’M SUPPOSED TO BE CIVIL???


5 posted on 10/18/2007 4:15:03 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Read FR First..........Then.......Drudge)
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To: stan_sipple

YUP! That would be their “reclaiming a values-based dialogue.”


6 posted on 10/18/2007 4:18:22 PM PDT by LNewman (EAGLES UP!)
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To: LNewman
"of all our community members, including immigrants illegal invaders"

There; let's try to be accurate here. My ancestors were immigrants, legally entering the U.S. at Ellis Island, and becoming U.S. Citizens.

The idea that those who break into this country illegally, partake of benefits meant for U.S. Citizens (through the assistance of enablers), and steal the identities of American Citizens, plus deposit the babies OF FOREIGN NATIONALS on U.S. Soil to avail themselves of taxpayer-funded medical care (also meant for U.S. Citizens), is NOT what an immigrant is.

Tortured language of Leftist Loons can never change the FACTS.

7 posted on 10/18/2007 4:19:21 PM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: The_Reader_David

You have Bush’s great amigo, Vicente Fox, going around the country on his book tour calling people who were against amnesty racists and xenophobes.


8 posted on 10/18/2007 4:26:26 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: LNewman

Minor nit: when you give them links like that it helps their search engine rankings. Just provide it in plain text: example.com

And, if you read the profiles on their site you’ll see some sleazy mischaracterizations. It’s also interesting that they won’t come out for “reform”, considering that I’m sure their parent organization has done so.


9 posted on 10/18/2007 4:37:31 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: LNewman
I’ll be civil when the LAW is obeyed. Until then, get out of my country.
10 posted on 10/18/2007 4:41:15 PM PDT by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: LNewman

Typical leftist agitprop - to them anything other than complete agreement with their POV is ‘uncivil’.


11 posted on 10/18/2007 4:50:36 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: traditional1

You nailed it. They want the DREAM ACT passed. They want benefits meant for US citizens. Many expect to enter the USA illegally without opposition,and; the Minutemen must be hurting their plans.

Not one word on their site about we will assimilate and learn English. Not one word about we will push 1, speak English, and; we will provide our SSN. Not one word about entering the USA legally. About the only place I call these days other then privately owned businesses that do not offer a Spanish speaking option is the VAMC toll free number to refil meds and/or check my appointments. Why are these folks not flocking to serve our Armed Forces when they can get citizenship fairly easy if they can qualify and do serve?

I do not see them lined up at the Army or Marine recruiters looking to serve. Frankly, I see them looking for jobs that American teens and young adults would take like convenience stores and you name it.

I made the mistake of hiring one to paint. I am ashamed as I could have paid a little more to help an American, who needed the money/work.


12 posted on 10/18/2007 4:55:14 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Will do. I provided the link so FReepers would be more likely to read said "sleazy mischaracterizations."

And actually, when originally linking to their site, I was looking for the list of those belonging to this "coalition of human rights and labor groups." I tend to read that as a "coalition of subsidy factories and those they serve."

13 posted on 10/18/2007 6:28:58 PM PDT by LNewman (EAGLES UP!)
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To: LNewman; HiJinx; gubamyster

14 posted on 10/18/2007 6:51:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
HA! Now THAT'S a KEEPER!!

Thanks! :)

15 posted on 10/18/2007 7:04:13 PM PDT by LNewman (EAGLES UP!)
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To: LNewman

Yeah, that’s a good one.


16 posted on 10/18/2007 7:11:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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ping


17 posted on 10/18/2007 10:35:06 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: LNewman

Thanks for the link. That website is pure Hegelian Dialectic. I couldn’t find the word illegal anywhere.


18 posted on 10/18/2007 11:49:53 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: LNewman; All

They are borrowing a page from the Jihadists.

They negotiate peace becase they are trying to reload.

THEY ARE TRYING TO SNEAK THE DREAM ACT PAST US BEFORE THANKSGIVING!!!!

(sen martinez publicly stated they might be able to pass it before thanksgiving)

THIS IS A DISTRACTION FOR AMNESTY!!!!

NO!
NO!
NO!
NO!
To the DREAM ACT AMNESTY!


19 posted on 10/19/2007 5:36:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LNewman

The only apprpriate “debate” regarding illegal invaders would be paraphrased by Ronald Reagan as “We win, they loose.”

These traitors in our midst, these pandering liberals simply don;t get it and never will. We should ignore them and concentrate on the prostitutes in Washington and make it clear to them that their cushy careers as elected “professional” legislators are on the line when it comes to illegal invaders and pandering to them and those miscreants who support them.


20 posted on 10/19/2007 7:02:13 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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