NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE

Free Republic post ^ | 10/20/2007 | by ex-snook

[Jim Robinson]

"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."

Agree.

NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE

Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.

‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan

[mtntop3]

Yes, something IS more important than life - the Lord God who created life.

Life did not precede the Lord God.

And that creator ordained: that we shall love the Lord God and our neighbor.

Would that the love for the unborn manifested here occur also for the born.

[BykrBayb]

Frankly, I think more is expected of us.

Then please don't demand less.

[TAdams8591]

"and I’ll go further that this is less about the unborn, then the control of women."

Hildy, I have always sincerely thought it was the people PUSHING abortion, who were/are, attempting to control women.

[Live free or die]

Jim...and everyone else willing to listen: I love you all but this is a terrible mistake.

There is something out there more important than life. Freedom. Its so important that its the one thing we spend our lives to defend. We are doing so now. At this very moment I'm typing from Camp Arifjan Kuwait where friends of mine are getting into contact with the enemy every day. I've lost two of my friends while I was in Afghanistan and now, it looks as though out political establishment seems to be debating on an end to the war.

You may not like it, but voting for a candidate who cannot win against a defeatist opponent in the Democrats is tacit support for Democrat policies. Against this enemy at this time such a move is catastrophic.

We have the opportunity here and now to beat the Democrats and as little as I like him, the former mayor of NYC just happens to be the one who can beat Hillary.

What would you do? Would you reduce the entire race for the White House to the single issue of abortion to the detriment of the others? I can only repeat, this is a disastrous course and it leads to Democrat victories in November.

Lest we forget, we pro-lifers thought we were getting someone in W. who we felt could affect meaningful changes in abortion policies. Where are they? A hard fought late-term abortion ban. That's it. While it is something there are other considerations and we don't discuss the workings of our sewers while the barbarians are at the gate.

[visualops]

Bump

[Petronski]

...the former mayor of NYC just happens to be the one who can beat Hillary.

But not the ONLY one. That's a tired old canard.

[Live free or die]

I believe Wendell Goler of Fox News nailed it when he asked Mitt Romney "Did you ever have a change of heart that didn't appeal to the base of the Republican Party?"

Do you really trust that sheep in wolf's clothing Romney? That tired old malcontent McCain? The nonentities in Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee?

I sternly and solemnly believe that you and the rest of the Freepers that are so enthusiastically bumping this thread around are fooling yourselves.Your moral superiority is going to elect a Democrat and therefore you are every bit as dangerous as they are. I have said before and will say again, we are in the fight of our lives here and WE MUST WIN.

[Jim Robinson]

"There is something out there more important than life. Freedom."

The mission is defending Life & Liberty. They go hand in hand. When the Giuliani's of the world wantonly snuff out the lives of 50,0000,000 innocent and helpless babes in the womb, they deprive them of both life and liberty. No life, no liberty, no freedom. The equivalent of a generation of young Americans wiped out.

[Live free or die]

Forgive me but since when do life and liberty go hand in hand since we have to pay for one with the other?

You seem to have ignored my point. Your intransigence is going to ride a Democrat straight into the White House, into Congress and thus overwhelmingly into the Supreme Court. Then let's see what a wonderful world you (and I mean you personally) have helped to create!!!

[Jim Robinson]

If you are proposing that we elect the abortionist Rudy Giuliani to the presidency, then, sir, it is the blood of these 50,000,000 Americans who have been deprived of life & liberty on your hands. And the death of the Republican party to boot.

[EternalVigilance]

since when do life and liberty go hand in hand

Since the Garden of Eden.

First, God gave man life, then He gifted him with liberty.

Since the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men...

Since the adoption of the Fifth Amendment.

"No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..."

Since the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

[EternalVigilance]

It’s puzzling to me why you can’t see the difference between lives given freely for their brothers and their country and innocent lives snuffed out unrighteously by abortionists.

The equation between the two completely different things that you’re making is an offensive one.

Listen, and listen good, bub. There are millions of us who will no more use our sacred franchise to vote for Giuliani or Romney than we will for Clinton. Ever. Live with it.

[dmw]

BTTT

[Live free or die]

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

I know you've realized this being who you are, but it may bear repeating: the Republican Party of the United States is the best champion of conservative values (the renunciation of abortion being only one of them)that we have.

To advocate a Republican defeat is automatic pari pasu subornation of a Democrat victory. It cannot be avoided and to say blood will be on my hands when you will be the herald of Republican defeat is too noxious to bear contemplation. What will you do? Bring about a Hillary Clinton presidency and hope for the best later?

[Jim Robinson]

Look, pal. I’m all for electing conservative Republicans. But you’re not going to do that by running abortionist liberals. If Rudy gets the nod, say hello to President Hillary and goodbye to the formerly conservative Republican party.

[Live free or die]

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that freedom exists in this world as a matter of course. You may have forgotten that it has to be fought for.

Remember, we aren't in the Garden anymore.

Remember that the Declaration of Independence could only have been written while the Colonies still had an army in the field.

And remember that the Fifth Amendment and any of the rest of them you care to mention are meaningless without an instrument of enforcement backed by lives and blood. How often have you heard that the 2nd Amendment is the one that makes all the others possible?

[Live free or die]

And for that we will have to listen to your endless complaints at what a miserable world you claim the rest of us made for you. I don’t hate you for it. You join numerous company in your blindness.

[EternalVigilance]

You sure are full of assumptions tonight. You can’t find a post of mine that would confirm what you claim.

Just what do you think all those folks were fighting and dying to protect? The right to slaugher babies, like Rudy Giuliani supports?

[EternalVigilance]

No one could be blinder than someone shilling for an abortion-loving, radical gay-agenda supporting, open-borders promoting, gungrabbing Leftist like Giuliani.

[Live free or die]

You happen to be typing to one of “those folks” right now. That doesn’t automatically make me right but it does negate the use of your word “assumptions”. I won’t be faulted by you or anyone else for seeing Guiliani as an unwelcome minority in the Republican but far better than abominations like Hillary and the Democrats for the sole reason of people like me who hates abortion (probably more than you do).