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To: dragnet2; Shion; 17th Miss Regt; SE Mom; TankerKC; mad_as_he$$; Carry_Okie; steve86

Actually, Gov Schwarznegger put in place state funds to help pay for private homeowners to do voluntary fire management on their own property: http://www.fire.ca.gov/rsrc-mgt_forestryassistance_cfip.php

Creating firebreaks on your property (among other actions) can help save your land.

Logging roads, when placed strategically, can double a natural firebreak as well as provide quick access for heavy fire-fighting equipment to ingress into the fight.

Such firebreaks also allow more options for backfires so as to create an enormous area where a wildfire has no fuel.

...all of this was pioneered in the Appalachian mountains of Alabama (and yes, we routinely get 40mph winds in the Appalachian chain).

This is why the forest fires of Alabama that made the news back in 1940 are no longer newsworthy, because scientific forest management reduced 50,000 acre wildfires down to 100 acre brushfires...and that’s what is attempting to be copied by California (at least, where the enviro-wackos haven’t halted such efforts).


123 posted on 10/22/2007 10:19:57 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

You don’t know what your talking about.


125 posted on 10/22/2007 10:20:41 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Southack
Such large fires *can* be stopped with proper land management from mature adults.

California has more acreage of steep, super rugged geography than the entire state of Alabama. Many of these areas are totally inaccessible for most equipment, even for those on foot, add in very strong winds, with embers that can travel for *miles* into neighborhoods and other areas...

So your "mature adult" comment is quite juvenile and ignorant.

Or are you suggesting sending in several hundred thousand people every summer to be airlifted into hundreds of square miles, into all these super rugged steep areas to cut the brush?

Feel free to answer the questions.

127 posted on 10/22/2007 10:22:42 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Southack

California fire fighting and Alabama fire fighting have about as much in common as the arctic and the Sahara.


135 posted on 10/22/2007 10:25:39 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture ™)
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To: Southack; forester; calcowgirl; Amerigomag
Logging roads, when placed strategically, can double a natural firebreak as well as provide quick access for heavy fire-fighting equipment to ingress into the fight.

BWA HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!

Just try and get a water quality permit from Arnold's bureaucrats to put in a fire access road. Besides, with embers spotting for over a mile a road is a cruel joke for a fire break. Hell, the QLG fuel breaks in Plumas County were over a hundred feet wide and proved inadequate.

Arnold is a TOTAL flake on forest policy, echoing whatever proves politically expedient:

Sierra Club Applauds Gov. Schwarzenegger’s Move to Protect California’s Roadless Forests

SCHWARZENEGGER WON’T PROTECT ROADLESS AREAS IN CALIFORNIA

Mary Statement by Mary Wells, the Executive Director of the California Wilderness Coalition:

Governor Schwarzenegger is a true hero today. The petition to save all of California’s unprotected roadless areas in our National Forests is a giant step toward the permanent protection of California’s last remaining wilderness.

...all of this was pioneered in the Appalachian mountains of Alabama (and yes, we routinely get 40mph winds in the Appalachian chain).

Fuel moisture content, water availability, and terrain in Alabama are nothing like summer in California mountains. Nor do they have the kind of fire adapted chaparral found here.

This is why the forest fires of Alabama that made the news back in 1940 are no longer newsworthy, because scientific forest management reduced 50,000 acre wildfires down to 100 acre brushfires...and that’s what is attempting to be copied by California (at least, where the enviro-wackos haven’t halted such efforts).

The NRDC wrote Arnold's environmental plan for him. They're the people behind the current, counterproductive, and unscientific TMDL water quality regulations that have virtually killed logging in California. Everybody in the business knows that California's forests are overstocked. Even with the Healthy Forest Initiative the Bush Administration couldn't get it done here either and Arnold helped the RICOnuts make sure of it.

You asked for this mess with your craven support for Arnold in the recall. Now own it. Just because that lying SOB says he's supporting adequate fuel management, doesn't mean that it works out that way. He's just covering his butt.

238 posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Southack
You clearly still do not understand the situation. These fires evolve into plasma storms. Embers jump over a mile in front of the flame front. What works in Alabama will not work here. When fires reach 2000 degrees the drapes catch on fire instantly inside the house from the radiation.
289 posted on 10/22/2007 12:21:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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