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Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma
Ron Rosenbaum.com ^ | 10/29/07 | Ron Rosenbaum

Posted on 10/30/2007 6:09:13 PM PDT by jimboster

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To: CatoRenasci
A further thought. Rosenbaum writes:

this rumor the LA Times is supposedly sitting on is one I never heard in this specific form before.

To me, that means that there has been some sort of speculation about this purported sexual issue in the past. Obama hasn't been the subject of scrutiny long enough for that to be true - most of the 'scandal' speculation about him has been related to the question of whether he was a Muslim at some point in his life. On the other hand, there have been rumors - especially on the right - about Hillary's lesbianism since the early 1990s. (Also about her alleged affair with Vince Foster, and that Web Hubbell is Chelsea's father, but I digress....)

To me, that strongly suggests this is about Hillary, and that it's a lesbian relationship.

261 posted on 10/31/2007 4:39:42 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: jimboster

If they’re sitting on it, you know it HAS to be a RAT.


262 posted on 10/31/2007 4:42:19 AM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: Fairview

What fascinates me about these things is not the scandal itself, but the hubris that makes a politician with big skeletons in his/her closet think that s/he can run for president and it will never come out.

I cannot understand that either. I am relatively decent person, but I have some situations that if a reporter reported it in a certain way it would not be good. (Mostly some crazy drinking) But even with everything seemingly innocent, I would never run for President even if the position was 1 trillion dollars a year. It is not worth it at all IMHO.


263 posted on 10/31/2007 4:47:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: jimboster

When all else fails, when you just can’t find some fascts, make up a long rambling tale about nothing.

It made Seinfield rich


264 posted on 10/31/2007 4:50:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Russ
You can safely bet that it’s not a Republican. They would never sit on a story involving a Republican candidate.

Yes, they might. They might wait until after the primary. You see, if they eliminate the Republican candidate in question before the primary, another candidate will become the nominee and the Dems might still have a horse race for the general election. If they wait until after the primary, assuming the candidate in question is nominated, they can print the story then and the general election becomes a slam-dunk for the Dems.

265 posted on 10/31/2007 4:55:29 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: jslade

The hints given are that it’s a leading candidate, it’s not Edwards, we could already see the pulling back of the candidate and sense of impending doom in the press coverage of him/her, and it’s only the specifics of this rumor that are new to the candidate.

“Leading” but not Edwards narrows it down to Clinton, Obama, Giuliani, Romney and Thompson. Seeing signs of impending doom in campaigning and coverage I think rules out Clinton, Giuliani and Romney.

That leaves Obama and Thompson, both of whom have shown some sort of pulling back of asssertiveness, poll-standings, and media predictions. Of those two Thompson is the one I’m aware of as having old rumors floated (and recently). He’s also the one who has been in the free and easy Hollywood mix while his wife’s been home pregnant and/or with infants. (Hollywood is also where the LATimes would be most likely to get wind of it.)

Fred’s actually been my candidate, I hope it’s not him. The only other possibility I see is McCain, whom I eliminated from the ‘leading’ category up top. Still I am worried for Fred.


266 posted on 10/31/2007 4:56:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jimboster
A lot of FReepers here think that since the story is on hold, it has to be a Democrat becuase had it been a Republican, they would have released it immediately.

I disagree.

I think it may be a Republican and they are sitting on it until he either becomes the RNC nominee or gets a solid #1 position in the polls. That way, the LAT hopes it will be too late for the Republicans to regroup.

267 posted on 10/31/2007 4:58:52 AM PDT by moonman
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To: Friend of the Friendless
The only real ethical dilemma would be if it were actually something damaging to Hillary, and they were trying to figure out what South American prison they would wind up in if the information actually got out.

You know, even if if was an Edwards or Obama scandal, it could be damaging to Hillary in a roundabout way. Hillary needs Edwards and Obama in the race to split the anti-Hillary vote. If either Edwards or Obama dropped out, the other could consolidate support and possibly defeat Hillary in later primaries.

268 posted on 10/31/2007 5:10:42 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: moonman
I have argued it's probably a Democrat - either Hillary or Obama, but we cannot eliminate the possibility it's a 'Pubbie, in which case it would have to be Giuliani or Thompson. Giuliani's got a messy private life to begin with, but something big could blow him up. Thompson, as the Conservative capital C, would suffer the most from sexual scandal that might not sink another candidate. Romney is a dark horse - he's always been seen as Mr. Clean, and so it would also affect his image strongly.

The problem if something's really juicy (which this allegedly is) is that a truly compromised Republican candidate could withdraw and someone stronger take the reins. As widely known as this scandal apparently is, someone who doesn't believe in 'last minute gotcha' reporting will leak it to Drudge. The circle is too big for a long term tight hold without massive pressure. To my mind, that leans to be a Democrat whom they wish to protect. Only if it were something that would never see the light of day, could people's competitive juices be calmed enough not to jump the gun.

269 posted on 10/31/2007 5:10:54 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

It has to be Clinton. She is the only candidate that the MSM will go to the mat for.


270 posted on 10/31/2007 5:16:24 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: upsdriver
There has been a story out for a while now about McCain being gay. Since he has been endorsed by the Log Cabin Republicans in 2000 and 2004, I don't see that as breaking.
271 posted on 10/31/2007 5:20:12 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: jimboster

Could be big. Generally speaking, the African-American community is against homosexuality.


272 posted on 10/31/2007 5:20:34 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

This is probably going to be the most interesting election we have ever seen.


273 posted on 10/31/2007 5:21:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Izzy Dunne

The only coverage that has seemed strange to me is the coverage of Fred Thompson, so he would be my guess. Being of the Hollywood crowd (at least somewhat) might make the LA Times hesitate to “go there.”


274 posted on 10/31/2007 5:22:22 AM PDT by Bryher1
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To: darkwing104
Translation...It's a Democrat. Keep an eye on the Drudge Report.

I'm thinking that if this rumor were true, Drudge would have reported on it by now.

275 posted on 10/31/2007 5:24:21 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Eagles6

“Journalists don’t encounter ethical or moral dilemmas.”

Except when it involves a Democrat and the possibility of a short walk in the park with a revolver.


276 posted on 10/31/2007 5:25:44 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: SteveMcKing
It’s Edwards, verifiably

No scandal there. Just auditioning replacements for whenever Liz takes the dirt nap.

277 posted on 10/31/2007 5:26:16 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: Bryher1

>>>Being of the Hollywood crowd (at least somewhat) might make the LA Times hesitate to “go there.”

I was thinking that too.


278 posted on 10/31/2007 5:27:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

If it’s the beltway press crowd who is in the know, then it may be assumable that the politician is DC based - and that leaves Rudy and Mitt out. Fred, as well.

McCain would fit the bill, as would Hillary or Obama.

heaven knows that to the DC press crowd, anyone outside the beltway is insignificant in their minds.


279 posted on 10/31/2007 5:33:11 AM PDT by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: MortMan

i was hoping someone would have figured this out by this AM. i wanna know!


280 posted on 10/31/2007 5:34:12 AM PDT by xsmommy
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