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Your guns are 'too violent' for Remembrance Day, mayor tells rifle regiment
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 9th November 2007

Posted on 11/11/2007 10:44:12 AM PST by tired1

Miss Beach, the Labour mayor of Chepstow in Monmouthshire, said: "I would prefer for there not be any guns at the parade - and raised it because it is an issue I personally feel very strongly about.

"I am very much against guns and think they are awful things. Killing in any war is awful and I am against this violence.

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UK woman mayor's tribute to a Rifle Regiment: no guns!
1 posted on 11/11/2007 10:44:13 AM PST by tired1
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To: tired1

I don’t think this lady is quite up to speed on the concept of a “remembrance day.”


2 posted on 11/11/2007 10:46:04 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: tired1
Does this moron have any idea what Remembrance Day is about?

That it, Western Civilization is finished. Turn out the lights , it had a nice run but has become to in bred, to intellectually exhausted to survive.

3 posted on 11/11/2007 10:46:06 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: tired1

What does she think?

Playing ‘patti-cake’ and sharing your cookies prevent terrorism and war?


4 posted on 11/11/2007 10:46:24 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: tired1

Good citizens sleep peacefully because rough men stand ready in the night....

(or something like that).


5 posted on 11/11/2007 10:47:01 AM PST by spanalot
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To: tired1

Just when you thought people could not get any stooooopider........


6 posted on 11/11/2007 10:47:24 AM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: tired1

Could they use pointed sticks (with corks on them)...


7 posted on 11/11/2007 10:48:30 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: tired1
"I am very much against guns and think they are awful things. Killing in any war is awful and I am against this violence.

Where was this visionary during WWII? Should have just let the Nazis carry on - no sense interrupting those orderly death camps.

8 posted on 11/11/2007 10:48:44 AM PST by relictele
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To: spanalot

“Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” - credited to George Orwell


9 posted on 11/11/2007 10:48:46 AM PST by rottndog (Let us NEVER forget those who have paid the highest price, that we may live in FREEDOM!)
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To: tired1

Lol. Hey, people voted for this ninny.


10 posted on 11/11/2007 10:48:56 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: tired1

PUKE


11 posted on 11/11/2007 10:49:10 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Obstructing a war is easy; fighting one isn't.)
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To: tired1
Idiot liberals like that woman will get us all killed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 11/11/2007 10:50:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tired1

The end of the article notes another stupid ban that riled some Brits. Poppy wreaths were banned from a mountaintop Remembrance Day service (an annual event for almost 90 years), because the local hiking club doesn’t want to clean up the “disintegrated, soggy poppy waste.”


13 posted on 11/11/2007 10:52:43 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: tired1
"Killing in any war is awful and I am against this violence."

Well, I suppose so. There are any number of examples of people who deserved killing though.

One story I remember from the History Channel was told by an American fighter pilot from WWII. He was in a battle and noticed that a German pilot was killing American pilots who were parachuting after their planes were damaged. So he got behind this guy and picked at him and picked at him and forced him to bail out. Then he shot him. I thought, good! He deserved it!

14 posted on 11/11/2007 10:52:47 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: rottndog

“credited to George Orwell”

but never confirmed? In any case, he should have said it.


15 posted on 11/11/2007 10:53:08 AM PST by spanalot
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To: MNJohnnie
Western Civilization is finished

If we can't have guns we will have to live under someone else's gun.

16 posted on 11/11/2007 10:53:32 AM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: tired1
UK woman mayor's tribute to a Rifle Regiment: no guns!

If she's not gay, some reporter should ask her if she only
dates men that "shoot blanks".
17 posted on 11/11/2007 10:53:34 AM PST by VOA
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To: Enterprise
Pacifism, as George Orwell understood correctly, is to enable the triumph of totalitarianism by default. The truth is war does settle things quite nicely when the good guys have the will to win it decisively.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 11/11/2007 10:54:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Enterprise
So he got behind this guy and picked at him and picked at him
and forced him to bail out. Then he shot him.


That's a pity. Seeing how .50 cal BMGs were the American standard.
And the b@$tard didn't suffer nearly as long as he deserved.
19 posted on 11/11/2007 10:56:43 AM PST by VOA
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To: G Larry
What does she think?

There. Fixed it for ya.

20 posted on 11/11/2007 10:57:06 AM PST by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: goldstategop
Idiot liberals like that woman will get us all killed.

No, not all. But as soon as it is clear that someone like that is, it will be up against the wall with them as soon as possible and damn good riddance.

21 posted on 11/11/2007 10:59:23 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: tired1

He name is Hilary:)


22 posted on 11/11/2007 10:59:56 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: VOA
Isn’t THAT the truth! Just one hit is like a grenade! Parts flying everywhere.
23 posted on 11/11/2007 11:01:04 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: tired1

This woman should be carted. (An Englishman will know the meaning of “carting.”) Actually western civilization is not showing enough violence!


24 posted on 11/11/2007 11:02:12 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: tired1
Miss Beach's plea to the council fell on deaf ears.

Ned Heywood, a former mayor, made one of the opposing speeches.

He said: "Miss Beach is a pacifist and felt unhappy about the Rifles marching with guns through the town. But she received absolutely no support.

Damn well right, the silly bitch.

Now if their government and judges would have as much sense.

25 posted on 11/11/2007 11:04:39 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: relictele
Where was this visionary during WWII? Should have just let the Nazis carry on - no sense interrupting those orderly death camps.

Then they could have add this sort of drivel (All comments currently being spewed forth by so called "enlightened" US Leftists about Iraq.)

"After all the Germans are just killing their own, not like they attacked us or anything! Who do we think we are telling the Germans what to do in their own country! Who decided we were the world's policeman? We are just creating more Nazis by fighting them!"

26 posted on 11/11/2007 11:07:42 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: goldstategop
Idiot liberals like that woman will get us all killed.

Not really. Make them useful. Let them go forward and greet the enemy. As did Sadaam, the enemy will find them a dangerous job where they get killed. If, on the other hand they embrace the enemy, sharpen your aim and use them for target practice.

27 posted on 11/11/2007 11:08:40 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: tired1
“Miss Beach, the Labour mayor of Chepstow in Monmouthshire...”

Some of my ancestors left Chepstow for Massachusetts in 1630 - now I’m even more grateful to them.

28 posted on 11/11/2007 11:13:34 AM PST by decal (This tagline is subject to change without noti........)
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To: tired1
Your GUNS are 'too violent' for Remembrance Day, mayor tells rifle regiment

Hard to imagine that!

Hmmmhhh, remembering the DI's little ditty: "THIS IS YOUR RIFLE..., THIS IS YOUR GUN..., THIS IS FOR FIGHTING..., THIS IS FOR FUN!

I am certain that political correctness banned such DI training methods many decades ago!

If you don't know what was being demonstrated..., use your imagination!

29 posted on 11/11/2007 11:15:36 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: spanalot
You are close ...

Here is the quote it is by George Orwell

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." GEORGE ORWELL

30 posted on 11/11/2007 11:15:54 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: tired1
Killing in any war is awful and I am against this violence.

La Dee Da, wouldn't the world be a better place if everybody was as intelligent as the Mayor.

31 posted on 11/11/2007 11:16:28 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: BallyBill

I wonder if she believes in a municipal police force, or in a security detail for herself?


32 posted on 11/11/2007 11:21:05 AM PST by maica
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To: tired1

I wonder what her thoughts are on dull swords, pliers, axes, sharp sticks and pointy rocks?


33 posted on 11/11/2007 11:22:58 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: tired1
Nonetheless, Hilary Beach decided to call for 1Bn The Rifles to leave their weapons behind at tomorrow's Remembrance Day parade because she feels they are too "violent".

Guns are not violent, you ninny! They are inanimate objects, tools that just peacibly lie there until they're needed. And sister, if you ever really need one, you won't think they're violent enough.

34 posted on 11/11/2007 11:25:32 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: relictele
Where was this visionary during WWII?

Don't know, but right afterwards, the likes of her were confiscating and destroying the guns of the Home Guard. Some of theose guns had been collected from individual Americans by the NRA and donated to the Home Guard, well before the US got into the war.

35 posted on 11/11/2007 11:25:47 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: tired1

We need to take over Britain and clean it up. Too much Euro trash left over from the 80’s


36 posted on 11/11/2007 11:28:53 AM PST by Porterville (Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
I thought compost was good for the environment.
37 posted on 11/11/2007 11:29:39 AM PST by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: tired1
I absolutely loathe liberals. They want to force their likes/ideas/preferences on us, by taking away OUR rights. This is exactly what the US liberals want. I feel for the folks in the UK, but this is what happened when they surrendered their guns to the government. We have to be vigilant to make sure it doesn't happen in the US.

I will NEVER surrender my guns. I don't care if it makes me a felon. The only way they're going to catch me is if I kill an intruder, and then they can put me in prison for the rest of my life. I'll just spend that time converting Muslims to Christianity. LOL I've got this all figured out. ;o)

38 posted on 11/11/2007 11:29:57 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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“Western Civilization is finished”

That’s what they said about France and Chile until Franco and Pinochet appeared. All the West needs is leaders. The problem is that the West prides itself in becoming a multicultural society. When there is too much diversity, unity becomes an impossibility.


39 posted on 11/11/2007 11:34:29 AM PST by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the masses.)
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To: 353FMG

i think you mean Spain.


40 posted on 11/11/2007 11:35:16 AM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: spanalot
... it seems there are some who’re determined by fate,
To possess not the courage to step up to the plate,
Who shrink from all threat because nothing’s worth war.
But how can they know lest they’ve been there before?
Thank God some have courage, the will, yes, the grace,
To stand for the shirkers, stand strong in their place.
Thank God we have stalwarts who’ll stand for us all,
Who will rise to the challenge at their nation’s call.

The faint-hearted, who fear, whose reaction is flight,
Have no comprehension of those who will fight.
To hide their own trepidation they attempt to demean
The rough men, who defend them, as barbaric, obscene.
Yet these rough men stand ready, hard weapons to hand, To put placaters behind them, draw a line in the sand,
To preserve for the peaceniks what they won’t defend,
So their own unearned freedom won’t perish, won’t end.

To appeasers, rough men are coarse government tools.
To rough men, appeasers are dumb delusional fools.

Russ Vaughn
2d Bn, 327th Parachute Infantry Regiment
101st Airborne Division
Vietnam 65-66

41 posted on 11/11/2007 11:43:11 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: tired1

That’s like asking the marchers in a gay pride parade not to bring their...

sorry, bad analogy.


42 posted on 11/11/2007 11:43:28 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("The bourgeoisie will remember my carbuncles until their dying day," -Karl Marx)
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To: tired1

“Only the dead have seen the last of war”.

Plato


43 posted on 11/11/2007 11:44:16 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: tired1
Methinks she'd have a problem with seeing private ownership weapons collections like this in America.

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44 posted on 11/11/2007 11:45:35 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: tired1

Why does it seem recently, whenever there’s a story which makes one look and think “is (he or she) completely insane?”, the story is about England?

Please let’s not follow their lead, on political correctness.

We really, truly need to start fighting back. Acquiescence and compromise will result in America becoming just as lost.


45 posted on 11/11/2007 11:46:50 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: El Gato
the likes of her were confiscating and destroying the guns of the Home Guard.

Well, it's a good thing she is not in Poland... here is THEIR Independence Day,

She would absolutely have her knickers in square knots.

Betcha five bucks those are real select fire AK's with bayonets. No wimping around from those boys.



They had them in several period uniforms as well.

Here is how they treat their flag.

Back in time just a bit.

These boys go waaay back.

Hummm, there is something familiar about those uniforms...


46 posted on 11/11/2007 11:49:24 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: spanalot

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.

George Orwell (1903 - 1950)


47 posted on 11/11/2007 11:52:20 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Cobra64
yea, yea... but how much AMMO do you have?

:-)


48 posted on 11/11/2007 11:53:08 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: tired1

If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed,
if you will not fight when your victory can be sure and not too costly,
you may come to a moment when you have to fight with all the odds against you,
and only a precarious chance to survive.
There may even be a worse case -
You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory,
and it will be better to perish than to live in slavery.
- Winston Churchill, 1937.


49 posted on 11/11/2007 11:58:15 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: TLI
That is not my collection. I only have about 19 shooters. I do have a well balanced stash of about 13,000 rounds in various flavors.

Here's my 9mm bulk container:
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50 posted on 11/11/2007 12:02:08 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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