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US is‘worst’ imperialist: archbishop
Timesonline.com ^ | 11/25/07 | Timesonline.com

Posted on 11/24/2007 11:42:20 PM PST by Roberts

THE Archbishop of Canterbury has said that the United States wields its power in a way that is worse than Britain during its imperial heyday.

Rowan Williams claimed that America’s attempt to intervene overseas by “clearing the decks” with a “quick burst of violent action” had led to “the worst of all worlds”.

In a wide-ranging interview with a British Muslim magazine, the Anglican leader linked criticism of the United States to one of his most pessimistic declarations about the state of western civilisation.

He said the crisis was caused not just by America’s actions but also by its misguided sense of its own mission. He poured scorn on the “chosen nation myth of America, meaning that what happens in America is very much at the heart of God’s purpose for humanity”.

Williams went beyond his previous critique of the conduct of the war on terror, saying the United States had lost the moral high ground since September 11. He urged it to launch a “generous and intelligent programme of aid directed to the societies that have been ravaged; a check on the economic exploitation of defeated territories; a demilitarisation of their presence”.

He went on to suggest that the West was fundamentally adrift: “Our modern western definition of humanity is clearly not working very well. There is something about western modernity which really does eat away at the soul.”

Williams suggested American leadership had broken down: “We have only one global hegemonic power. It is not accumulating territory: it is trying to accumulate influence and control. That’s not working.”

He contrasted it unfavourably with how the British Empire governed India. “It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering it and normalising it. Rightly or wrongly, that’s what the British Empire did — in India, for example.

“It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put it back together — Iraq, for example.”

In the interview in Emel, a Muslim lifestyle magazine, Williams makes only mild criticisms of the Islamic world. He said the Muslim world must acknowledge that its “political solutions were not the most impressive”.

He commends the Muslim practice of praying five times a day, which he says allows the remembrance of God to be “built in deeply in their daily rhythm”.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: archbishop; britain; canterbury; crackhead; england; greatbritain; pantload; rowanwilliams; uk; unitedkingdom
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"Williams makes only mild criticisms of the Islamic world. He said the Muslim world must acknowledge that its “political solutions were not the most impressive”."

Next, he'll be proclaiming "peace in our time". What a tool.

1 posted on 11/24/2007 11:42:21 PM PST by Roberts
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To: Roberts
THE Archbishop of Canterbury has said that the United States wields its power in a way that is worse than Britain during its imperial heyday.

Grizzled Bear has said that the THE Archbishop of Canterbury should pull his head out from between his buttocks. His lack of clean air seems to have clouded his already questionable judgment.

2 posted on 11/24/2007 11:46:27 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Roberts
In a wide-ranging interview with a British Muslim magazine,

Well, that explains a lot. Starting with why he's pandering to the islamists by slamming the US. He knows we'll just shrug if he insults us, but they'll cut off his head. Coward.

3 posted on 11/24/2007 11:46:42 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: Roberts

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


4 posted on 11/24/2007 11:47:44 PM PST by hawkeye101 (When in my darkest hour, your thoughts do me no good, but PRAYERS are greatly appreciated!)
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To: Roberts

Well if you really want to puke, read the comments in the paper that follow the story...


5 posted on 11/24/2007 11:49:04 PM PST by DB
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To: Roberts

Umm....Doofus....

The USA has never been an imperial power.
Unlike Britain, spain, france, portugal, japan...


6 posted on 11/24/2007 11:51:44 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Roberts
yyyyyyyyyyyyeah.....

whatever

7 posted on 11/24/2007 11:52:18 PM PST by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: Roberts

Cranks like him harm Christianity by using their leadership role to denigrate one of the powers that assured they can spout mindless poppycock by helping to defeat the Nazis and by leading the defeat of the Soviet Union. Clearly, someone must do the same today against al Qaeda and its menace. The Archbishop is playing to the anti-American crowd and ignoring the real threats in the world.


8 posted on 11/24/2007 11:55:56 PM PST by elhombrelibre (It's not easy being a Run Paul defeatist on Iraq, but a few annoying freepers work at it.)
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“Our modern western definition of humanity is clearly not working very well. There is something about western modernity which really does eat away at the soul.”

So much nobler to live in Papua New Guinea (a french imperialist hell hole)

9 posted on 11/24/2007 11:58:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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"chosen nation myth of America"

News to me. Granted there's a flair of arrogance/ignorance in foreign affairs...thanks to Ivy League policy wonks at Foggy Bottom.

10 posted on 11/24/2007 11:59:46 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: All

Made better by the french


11 posted on 11/25/2007 12:03:51 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Roberts

The Indian example is probably the worst of all possible excuses to use. The policy of divide and rule; the tragedy of the Partition; the way the Indian empire distorted British policy for long decades; how it led to the British involvement in Egypt to protect the Suez; it’s role in securing the Horn of Africa, once the sealane to India and that in turn possible to the Scramble for Africa and other catastrophes too numerous to mention. Iraq is one example that comes to mind. It was an Anglo-French Frankenstein created under Sykes-Picot. Whatever the Archbishop’s theology is like, I think his history is suspect.

But I don’t think his understanding will get better. Certain points of view are proof against facts. But such lead to consequences which none of us can escape.


12 posted on 11/25/2007 12:04:02 AM PST by wretchard
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It was an Anglo-French Frankenstein created under Sykes-Picot.

Bingo!

Pompous English twit!

13 posted on 11/25/2007 12:07:13 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Roberts

Sounds like a little mental masterbation from the Archbishop of Canterbury. Eh, its easy to declare the US is the ‘worst’imperialist, fascist, or empire. There is no risk in doing so. Its not like we’ll invade Canada or nuke the UK because of it.

We’ll, not yet anyway. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :-)


14 posted on 11/25/2007 12:13:25 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: Roberts

Rowan, you ignorant slut. Stop getting your news from the BBC.


15 posted on 11/25/2007 12:24:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Roberts

More like “Archbishop of Panderbury”. Expect more as Muslim numbers in Europe increase.


16 posted on 11/25/2007 12:24:50 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: hsalaw
He knows we'll just shrug if he insults us, but they'll cut off his head.

Which head?

17 posted on 11/25/2007 12:26:45 AM PST by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: Roberts

Oh, for Pete’s sake. Just convert to Islam already, you senile old fool.


18 posted on 11/25/2007 12:34:03 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Roberts
United States wields its power in a way that is worse than Britain during its imperial heyday

Both America and Britain have left the world way better than they found it. I might add: Spain at least improved most of South America, though anglic norms of jurisprudence and property law would have made a big difference there too. Compare and contrast with the Belgian Congo, Russia in Afghanistan, and Islam anywhere.

19 posted on 11/25/2007 12:41:38 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: wretchard

Agreed. I think the Archbishop and his courtiers are immune to facts. At their core is self-loathing and guilt for western civilization.


20 posted on 11/25/2007 12:42:36 AM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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