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To: Dead Corpse
We're discussing who the second amendment protects, remember? I say it protects individuals who are members of a well regulated state Militia.

If children -- or anyone else -- has their individual RKBA protected, it would be by their state constitution, not the second amendment.

You're thinking the second amendment protects everyone and everything -- National Guard, unorganized militia, kindergartners, little old ladies, national defense, home defense, personal defense, handguns, machine guns, nuclear weapons, on and on and on.

Well, no wonder you sound ridiculous. Anyone would. You're trying to solve the Grand Unification Theory using formulas from calculus and geometry.

There is no Grand Unification. There is the second amendment and there are state constitutions. They protect different arms for different people for different reasons.

350 posted on 11/30/2007 10:21:31 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
We're discussing who the second amendment protects, remember?

It says "the people", not "the militias".

You're thinking the second amendment protects everyone and everything -- National Guard, unorganized militia, kindergartners, little old ladies, national defense, home defense, personal defense, handguns, machine guns, nuclear weapons, on and on and on.

Er... that's what the Founders said too dumbass.

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United states who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." - Samuel Adams, in Phila. Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789

They protect different arms for different people for different reasons.

You say this, despite any evidence to support your idiotic theory. Sorry... you lose.

"Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the 'real' object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" - Patrick Henry, speech of June 9 1788

The Right is inherent. The Second Amendment protects said Right from "infringement" from any quarter. Not as a side-effect of militia service, and not just limited to the FedGov (via Art 6 para 2), but so that militia service is at all possible should the government fail in its other duties.

355 posted on 11/30/2007 10:36:20 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: robertpaulsen
I say it protects individuals who are members of a well regulated state Militia.

You should put on a black robe and join the 9th circuit.

So you are saying that being in a militia is a requisite to the right to keep and bear arms?

363 posted on 11/30/2007 11:13:01 AM PST by groanup (When companies fail they go out of business. When a gov't project fails it gets bigger. M.F.)
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