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Colorado Church Gunman `Hated Christians'
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-10-07 | Judith Kohler

Posted on 12/10/2007 2:24:21 PM PST by tcrlaf

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — The deadly shooting sprees at a megachurch and a missionary training school were believed to have been carried out by the same person — a 24-year-old suburban Denver man who "hated Christians," a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the investigation, identified the gunman as Matthew Murray, the son of a neurologist who is a prominent researcher on multiple sclerosis.

Five people — including a gunman — were killed, and five others wounded Sunday in the two eruptions of violence 12 hours and 65 miles apart.

The first attack took place at a youth missionary training center in the Denver suburb of Arvata; the other happened at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where the gunman was shot and killed by a security guard.

The law enforcement official said Murray was believed to be the gunman in both attacks. Murray did not appear to have a criminal history but "hated Christians," the official said. The official did not know Murray's religion, if any.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; christian; church; rkba; ropma; shooter; shooting; thegoldencompass
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To: the808bass; Invincibly Ignorant

Perhaps “Iggie” should think before posting, then. I find it somehwat surprising that (on FR of all places) I can be called a bigot for an ironic retort replete with ;) to drive the point home that it was a *joke*. And, yeah, I’m really pissed since tarring someone with that brush is beyond the pale when it’s not even remotely accurate.


181 posted on 12/10/2007 10:20:59 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
"the son of a neurologist who is a prominent researcher on multiple sclerosis"

One of her sons was murdered more or less simultaneously. The other one was estranged due to his transformation.

My Life Without God My Life Without God
by William J. Murray


182 posted on 12/11/2007 12:16:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_7684728?source=commented-news

“I took cover. I identified myself. I engaged him. I took him down,” the 42-year-old former law officer and volunteer church security guard said Monday at a news conference in the Colorado Springs police station. “I just said, ‘Holy Spirit, be with me.’ I wasn’t even shaking,” Assam said. “I give the credit to God. I say this very humbly. God was with me.”


183 posted on 12/11/2007 12:24:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dan Lacey

His Dark Materials Trilogy
(The Golden Compass; The Subtle Knife; The Amber Spyglass)
by Philip Pullman

(does he go by “Bill”? I couldn’t find that)

Some good news:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20165267,00.html

[snip] ...The Golden Compass’ modest $26 million bow should be enough for those New Line studio executives to keep their day jobs... it’s going to take a robust performance during the holiday vacation to make up its $205 million negative cost... Even its $26 million bow couldn’t surpass last year’s numbers at this time. The box office’s top 12 was down close to 10 per cent compared to last weekend at this time when Disney unleashed Mel Gibson’s Apocalypto and Sony opened up the Cameron Diaz-Kate Winslet romantic comedy The Holiday... John Cusack’s Iraq drama Grace is Gone had a much more difficult time. The Weinstein Company flick bowed on four screens to $14,000 for an anemic $3,500 average, all but killing award recognition for the Sundance-acquired indie. [end]


184 posted on 12/11/2007 12:43:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ValerieTexas

Maybe he was just what we call in professional circles a loon.


185 posted on 12/11/2007 12:47:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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My Life Without God My Life Without God
by William J. Murray

hardcover

there, that's better.
186 posted on 12/11/2007 12:48:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: incindiary

Sweet, awsome video. Thank you for sharing! ~yorkie


187 posted on 12/11/2007 12:55:09 AM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The parents couldn’t have been that strict, the kid had weapons out the wahzoo... and where’d he get all those rounds?

He’res a story from a lazy reporter who didn’t take the time to ask Cherry Creek why they had no info after the third grade test, yet mentions his enrolling in a university. I guess since he was slamming the homeschool connection home, he didn’t notice.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7682958

Did he have access to the youtube atheist videos is the question... some of them are getting militant now as well.


188 posted on 12/11/2007 4:49:52 AM PST by AliVeritas (Led Zep back by Viking Kitty request.)
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To: All; holdonnow

Colorado gunman scared co-workers 5 years ago, one says
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/10/shooter.youth/


189 posted on 12/11/2007 5:16:05 AM PST by AliVeritas (Led Zep back by Viking Kitty request.)
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To: Eva

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the “movers and shakers”. Their party elites are moving their sheeple blindly in a direction of their liking and it ain’t pretty.


190 posted on 12/11/2007 5:32:26 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: familyop

Western newspapers are likely to have more information — the time difference means they have later deadlines. Newspapers have adapted to the 24-hour news cycle online, but a writer’s primary deadline is still the one to make the morning edition.


191 posted on 12/11/2007 6:06:16 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: incindiary
That was a beautiful video incindiary. Thank you for sharing it with me. Going to ping some FRiends to it.

Thank you also for reminding me that God is very much in control and we as Christians need not worry.

I remember what my Mom told me when I was a small child - God will put nothing before you that He knows you cannot handle.

192 posted on 12/11/2007 7:37:19 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last.....it might be.)
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To: muffaletaman
The old black wool cap was called that because that was the correct terminology. Just like a watch cap with a bill is referred to as a Jeep Cap.

The fleece tactical beanies worn under the ACH are NOT called watch caps.

193 posted on 12/11/2007 7:39:48 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: dschapin

It’s amusing, sort of, that the MSM didn’t fail to mention he was “home-schooled”, which of course is a zip-file meme that once extracted, parses out to “nut-case religious whackos”. There’s never any editorial commentary with respect to public-schooled nutcases shooting up a mall/school/church however.


194 posted on 12/11/2007 7:41:14 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: ExSoldier; nwctwx; Velveeta; MamaDearest; nw_arizona_granny; LucyT; Cindy; KylaStarr; knighthawk; ..

TM ping to #153. Please view incindiary’s video. It’s a good reminder of who’s really in charge.


195 posted on 12/11/2007 7:41:39 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last.....it might be.)
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To: KC Burke
Doctors, or any professional that trains to the n-th degree is an isolated person. Gymnasts, Figure-skaters, concert muscians, research scientists, kids that do nothing but skate-board...any person who neglects all areas of life execpt for one becomes somewhat crippled in interaction outside of that area.

Like I said...it is anecdotal evidence. But, I have known hundreds of physicians...and neuro's are in a class by themselves...

fwiw-

196 posted on 12/11/2007 7:42:38 AM PST by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Thank you for the ping.


197 posted on 12/11/2007 8:05:54 AM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: incindiary; appalachian_dweller

Thank you, I needed that. I’m sharing this with others.


198 posted on 12/11/2007 8:11:30 AM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: AliVeritas

Can you post this article and ping me, please? For some reason trying to access the site causes my browser to shut down. THANKS!


199 posted on 12/11/2007 8:25:44 AM PST by kalee ( No burka for me...EVER.)
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To: incindiary

Thank you for that excellent video. I needed that too.


200 posted on 12/11/2007 8:29:39 AM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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