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300 TURKISH TROOPS ENTER NORTHERN IRAQ OVERNIGHT -SENIOR IRAQI MILITARY SOURCE
Reuters ^ | December 18, 2007

Posted on 12/17/2007 11:46:27 PM PST by HAL9000

300 TURKISH TROOPS ENTER NORTHERN IRAQ OVERNIGHT -SENIOR IRAQI MILITARY SOURCE


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; kurdistan; kurds; pkk; turkey; turkishtroops
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To: HAL9000

Someone tell the Turks that the Persians are the next country over.

21 posted on 12/18/2007 1:07:57 AM PST by thecabal
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To: LibertyRocks
Are these Kurds that are being targeted hostiles?

Yes. They're targeting the PKK, a group considered a Kurdish terrorist organization by the United States, Britain, and even the EU. Clashes with the PKK have killed tens of thousands of people in Turkey since the 1980s.

PKK has stepped up its terrorist activities after the Iraqi war, with hopes of taking over southeastern Turkey to create a Kurdish nation.

Many PKK members are based in Iraq, and have been illegaly crossing over the border into Turkey to committ terrorist acts against Turkish civilians and soldiers.

22 posted on 12/18/2007 1:09:18 AM PST by L.M.H.
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To: UKTory; LibertyRocks

Liberty, I am totally lost on this issue so I understand what you mean.
JMO, but I bet these “terrorist” PPK members are also the ones that helped the US carry out operations in the north during the Invasion of Iraq. Bet they were instrumental in eliminating Iraqi troops along side the US forces.

Again, JMO, I bet it was the Kurdish who P.O.’d a few state department folks and GW when they decided they wanted to form their own government and claim the oil in the north as their own.

So our intelligence and that of the Turks is so great that they are only bombing the PKK bad Kurds while not affecting the good Kurds in the process.

Wasn’t it part of our reasons for sanctions against Saddam because he was killing the Kurds? Must have been the good ones because we are allowing the Turks to invade Iraq and eliminate the bad Kurds. Why did we not do it? Seems crazy to allow another country in.

Something just does not seem right. Once I read the articles UKTory you provided links to, I may have a better understanding of the matter at hand.


23 posted on 12/18/2007 1:25:51 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: HAL9000

Done without any international process... from the same guys who tried to stop us and said us going there was not legal


24 posted on 12/18/2007 2:01:52 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: HAL9000
Hopefully the Kurds are properly armed and supplied.
25 posted on 12/18/2007 2:10:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HAL9000
Reuters - Turkish troops clashed with PKK in Iraq-army source
26 posted on 12/18/2007 2:14:08 AM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: HAL9000

how many times was this done before AP decided it was news worthy


27 posted on 12/18/2007 2:40:13 AM PST by Flavius (24/7)
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To: HAL9000

Before 2003, Saddam used the Ansar al-Islam jihadists and al Qaeda encamped in northern Iraq to keep the PKK in line. Now they’re all dead and the PKK has had a free reign to kill Turks. This was a well-known risk during the run-up to the invasion.


28 posted on 12/18/2007 2:55:35 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since 1991.)
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To: HAL9000

Our little “friends” the Turks are trying to stop any stabilization in Iraq because they want to continue to surpress their own Kurdish minority and take over Kurdistan - or at least part of it.


29 posted on 12/18/2007 3:25:38 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: L.M.H.

Let’s see if the Kurdish civilians will resist the Islamofascist Turks invading Iraq.


30 posted on 12/18/2007 3:25:53 AM PST by Wiz
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To: kinoxi

The PKK are not our allies.

All Kurds are not the same.


31 posted on 12/18/2007 3:30:07 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: PeteB570

Correct, but Turkey’s legitimate fight against PKK is only a pretext of destabilizing and ultimately subdueing ANY Kurdish self-ruling entity next door.


32 posted on 12/18/2007 3:54:21 AM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: SolidWood

Turkey, Iraq and Iran all have a problem with a self ruling Kurdish entity.


33 posted on 12/18/2007 4:12:13 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: HAL9000
NTV - Turkish strike in Iraq within rights to self defence says US

So why can't we strike into Pakistan to get Al Qaeda members?

34 posted on 12/18/2007 4:39:57 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two -- the 16th and 17th Amendments! Sink LOST!)
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To: rineaux
...but I bet these “terrorist” PPK members are also the ones that helped the US carry out operations in the north during the Invasion of Iraq

No, you would be wrong.

35 posted on 12/18/2007 4:46:00 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: All
To all who think that what Turkey did is wrong.

John Burnett reports one the recent surge of violence along the U.S.-Mexico border. In the past weeks, gunmen have fired on U.S. Border Patrol agents, Mexican drug traffickers have attacked Texas lawmen. . . .

Think of the drug smugglers as the Marxist PKK terrorists -- including a time in the future when 20,000 or so Americans have been killed by the drug smugglers trying to establish control over portions of the U.S. The 20,000 is the approximate number of Turkish civilian casualties caused by the PKK since the 1980s. The total number of deaths is greater owing to Turkish counterattacks.

What would we do? If you think what Turkey did is wrong then surely you'll argue that we should do nothing except let more Americans be murdered by the drug smugglers.

36 posted on 12/18/2007 4:50:31 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: rineaux

I advise everyone here to read the links posted. They really help illuminate the situation.

As has been posted before, the PKK is a brutal, terrorist, Marxist group of thugs, is not affiliated with the Kurdish government, is not a true defender of the Kurdish people, have actively killed tens of thousands of Turks, and are not to be called our allies. I have no qualms about an actual ally (however strained relations are now) killing few terrorists.


37 posted on 12/18/2007 5:17:01 AM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Appreciate your vast knowledge on the subject.


38 posted on 12/18/2007 5:29:31 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: onja

Thanks, will do so. Hopefully the article(s) will answer some of the lingering questions I and others may have.


39 posted on 12/18/2007 5:30:22 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: familyop

‘you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours’


40 posted on 12/18/2007 5:46:35 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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