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Proof Hucakbee is lying about the moving cross
myself | Dec 20, 2007 | Travis McGee

Posted on 12/20/2007 8:59:16 AM PST by Travis McGee

"THE TODAY SHOW"

MEREDITH VIEIRA: Let's talk about this Christmas ad, because it comes after you have taken some hits from the critics, first for calling yourself a Christian leader, then for questioning whether Mormons believe Christ and the devil were brothers, something you did apologize for.

Now in this ad you are say people should be celebrating the birth of Christ while the shape of a cross appears to take shape behind you. And that has led some to say that this is another overt religious appeal to voters. What do you say about this ad and about those criticisms?

MIKE HUCKABEE: That floating cross is a bookshelf, Meredith. We were all amused -- the production crew I think probably more than anyone, who put the spot together.

VIEIRA: So you didn't see that image when you put the spot together, that it might be confused?

HUCKABEE: Absolutely not.


These are movie camera "tracking dollies."

There are two reasons to use tracking dollies when directing a film. The most basic use is when following a moving subject and keeping them in the same plane. The classic use is to follow a walking actor in profile.

The other use of the tracking dolly is to move the background in a controlled way, while keeping the foreground subject in one place by simultaneiously tracking and panning the camera.

That is how the Huckabee team contrived and executed the shot, in order to move the glowing white (spotlighted) shelf/cross from the left side of the shot to behind Huckabee's head, in exactly the 30 seconds of the ad.

The use of the tracking dolly is the smoking gun, the proof that the moving cross effect was deliberate, and that Huckabee is lying about it being an unnoticed coincidence.

They didn't just come out and "find" that a tracking dolly had magically appeared on the set, and decide, "Aw shucks, why don't we stick the camera on this here funny contraption, and slide it from left to right while aiming at Mike's head, just for the heck of it."

Every aspect of this political advertisement was deliberate, down to the placement of the three ornaments on the glowing white spotlighted empty shelf.

The proof that the moving cross effect was deliberate, is the use of the tracking dolly to move the cross in the background in a perfectly controlled way.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; cross; huckabee
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To: PurpleMan
If a presidential candidate did not know or review the ad, he’s an incompetant boob, a snake-oil selling liar, or a former Arkansas governor.

How was he to know that a bunch of kooks would make an issue of a friggin' window behind him? If he wanted to show a cross he would have simply had a real cross behind him. Do people think that he thought that having the cross-pieces of a window there would somehow convert people to Christianity against their will or something? Sheesh people, get a grip.

141 posted on 12/20/2007 10:31:25 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Travis McGee

I think you’re reaching. That they used a tracking camera in and of itself does not prove they are lying. It is very plausible that what they expected in the background was the shelf with colored balls and the Christmas tree.

Now, with that said, I think the cross effect was intentional and they should just admit it. But to say that because they used a tracking camera “proves” they lied is just simply ridiculous!


142 posted on 12/20/2007 10:31:38 AM PST by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: Travis McGee

When I first saw the ad, I thought it was rather clever. Almost subliminal in nature. But yeah, the denials or even worse.... the pleas of ignorance re: the implication behind the “bookcase” is what is going to be damaging... not to mention highly insulting to one’s intelligence.

This ad is going to backfire big time on Huck’s campaign. It’s really a shame that politicians can’t be forthcoming and honest about everything (in what alternate universe?).

I fear....that we really are in ‘deep stuff’ for the ‘08 election. I hope I’m wrong.


143 posted on 12/20/2007 10:32:10 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: Travis McGee
If a preacher can lie about the cross, he will lie about ANYTHING, and make a lot of rubes and fools believe him, simply because they can't believe a "man of the gospel" would ever lie.

Then those people aren't paying much attention to their Bibles, which clearly state that all have sinned and are sinners. Lying is a sin - we've all done it, including Huckabee. I'm not supporting Huckabee nor would I vote for him, but to the best of my knowledge, the last person to walk this Earth who never lied was Jesus Christ, and that's been about 2000 years ago. Everyone else since then has.
144 posted on 12/20/2007 10:33:50 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Travis McGee

“It does not bother me that a former preacher would use a cross as a key advertisement element.

It greatly worries me that a former preacher would use a cross as a key advertisement element, and then LIE about it.”

Huckabee lies all the time about everything!


145 posted on 12/20/2007 10:34:36 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Travis McGee

146 posted on 12/20/2007 10:35:37 AM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: carton253
Don't be a jerk. My point was not that lying should be accepted or approved, just that it's a fact and people's political affiliations do play a part in their reaction to it.

I hope you have a nice day (and that's not a lie.)
147 posted on 12/20/2007 10:37:29 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: DManA

I honestly saw a bookself when I saw the add..


148 posted on 12/20/2007 10:37:52 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Bite me!


149 posted on 12/20/2007 10:39:59 AM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: XenaLee
Windows, bookcases, glassblock walls ~ they are all regularly used as backdrops behind all sorts of talking head and CSI type shows on TV.

Next you'll be telling us the gang at Meet the Press is actually the College of Cardinals or something:


150 posted on 12/20/2007 10:40:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: carton253

Bite yourself - I don’t know what you may be carrying.


151 posted on 12/20/2007 10:41:21 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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if it was "just a shelf" that "just happened to be in the background," then why is it empty except for three perfectly placed Christmas ornaments?

Clever symbolism for the Trinity?

152 posted on 12/20/2007 10:42:50 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: N3WBI3

At last, someone around here (other than myself of course) who shows some evidence of having abstained from hallucinogenic shrubs, nostrums and notions today ~ yes, it was a bookshelf ~ and if you look closely at some of the more popular Hallmark card designs available (in large quantities) you will see exactly the same set up.


153 posted on 12/20/2007 10:44:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Travis McGee
The use of a tracking dolly was probably to add movement into an otherwise static spot. And back lighting is a very common technique, to give depth to the shot.

Huckabee has many faults, but this is ridiculous. If you have to stoop this low to find something to criticize, maybe I should give him another look.

154 posted on 12/20/2007 10:46:16 AM PST by CA Conservative
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To: LadyNavyVet

“When the heat is on, instead of immediately telling the whole truth and defusing the situation, Huckabee’s instinct is to obfuscate. How Clintonesque. Huckabee is the least media savvy campaigner of all the candidates of either party, and it will be his undoing.”

Hope so, as the Huckster is dangerous.


155 posted on 12/20/2007 10:48:00 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: muawiyah

I just find it hilarious that some would suggest in the same spot he says ‘Christ’ he would lie about a cross... I could see how is someone wanted to they could see a cross in that but come on!


156 posted on 12/20/2007 10:48:02 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: LadyNavyVet

“Except he obviously is. There is no shame in putting a cross into an ad about Christmas.”

Nor is there same in calling a book shelf for what it is..


157 posted on 12/20/2007 10:49:34 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Travis McGee

“No Merideth,(chuckle) it’s absolutely absurd to think that just because I happen to be walking in a puddle of water it would give people the impression I am Jesus. People read too much into things nowadays and the anti-Christian hysteria is evident. See? No walking on water, just a 1/2 inch puddle that appears from nowhere while I wander about the ocean with no land in sight.”


158 posted on 12/20/2007 10:49:46 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: Travis McGee

If he is denying the cross actually being there, then isn’t he denying all that he supposedly stands for, which is Jesus Christ?


159 posted on 12/20/2007 10:52:00 AM PST by debboo (Stop socialism, vote conservative)
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To: cripplecreek

If he’s lying about that, he’s probably also lying when he says that if you play the ad backwards, you’ll hear “Paul is dead, Paul is dead, Paul is dead.”


160 posted on 12/20/2007 10:53:22 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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