Who's going to rescue you?????
Posted on 12/27/2007 7:13:38 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
Who's going to rescue you?????
And self defense is illegal in Britain.
Yeah, but England has gotten so far out there I can read a headline like this and don't even have to look at the credit to see where it was published.
And the proper answer is, "Boy, what makes you think you're gonna live long enough to call the police?"
But that attitude is absent, I fear. ;)
“And self defense is illegal in Britain.”
It’s entirely legal. I agree with the poster who said she has received bad legal advice, or possibly hasn’t sought any. She should be making a counter allegation for offences under section four of the public order act.
Yes but you know how it will work. The police will offer her a caution or a minor charge of affray or some such, if she agrees to plead guilty, if she refuses they will throw heavier charges of assault with the threat of imprisonment against her. Her solicitor will advise her to accept the lesser charge, the police will have “solved” another crime to meet their target and it will all go on again.
That's "Great" Britain for you.
Don’t ask me, I had to look up Chicken Oriental, and I’ve never seen Pulp Fiction.
I’m happily behind the times.
:D
I thought Alex and his Druges would be involved.
That's because criminals in the UK have more rights than you do. Emigrate to America while you still can. We can use more like you.
The big problem is that criminals have a big advantage over the law-abiding, due to their intimate familiarity with the details of how the criminal-justice system works. Long-time criminals generally know better than to admit to anything, and know that the first one to make a police complaint is generally the one in control of the situation.
But what about those weapons laws that prevent crime victims from even using an everyday object, such as a torch or a cricket bat, to retaliate at a crime scene?
“But what about those weapons laws that prevent crime victims from even using an everyday object, such as a torch or a cricket bat, to retaliate at a crime scene?”
There are no weapons laws that prevent someone from using something that comes to hand to defend themselves.
I'm glad they changed that, then. A few years ago a woman from my state went vacationing in London with her husband, an MD. One day as she shopped by herself, she was mugged in the Underground. She slashed back at her two attackers with her nail file, driving them off. SHE was the one arrested, for using a weapon. To avoid prison, she had to make several trips back to London at her own expense to testify in various phases of a trial. It cost her something like $400,000 for her defense.
The overall legal principle cited by the prosecution in her trial was that Britain has no presumptive right to self defense; the police are supposed to be responsible for your safety, and the victim has no part in it.
“The overall legal principle cited by the prosecution in her trial was that Britain has no presumptive right to self defense”
That’s never been a legal principle under UK law. Self defence is an absolute defence under law, and the burden of proof is on the prosecution.
Obviously it’s hard to comment on the details of a specific case without full details.
Sounds like her local police need a visit from a vigilance committee...
Yes that’s all very well but you simply cannot deny that there has been a de facto if not de jure swing away from the police, and it must be said Crown Prosecution Service, giving the victim the benefit of the doubt to being neutral between the criminal and the victim.
Now in this case you might say that the lady in question is the criminal and the youth is the victim which indeed is the police’s opinion but you have to admit that thirty years ago the little lout would have been sent packing by any copper to whom he had the effrontery to allege he was the victim of a criminal assault from this middle aged lady.
That former “common sense” approach to policing has been abandoned in the UK in favour of a strict literalism and neutrality and no amount of parsing and analysing the current state of UK legislation is going to gainsay that. It is this change in the nature of British policing which angers most “respectable” people, it is a delight of course to the Left who actively seek to undermine “respectable” British society.
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