Posted on 12/31/2007 1:41:43 PM PST by lancer256
I am still on CAS, Clinton Scandals list.
All the best to you and yours in the New Year!
Brenda
Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations(CFR), AND chief advisor on foreign policy to Mike Huckabee.
Especially since electability was the whole reason for Fred getting into the race in the first place.
The only problem with Rush saying that he does not make endorsements during the primaries is that Rush endorsed Pat Buchanan in primaries against George HW Bush in 1992.
An endorsement now would be nice, but I would settle for Rush just playing the 17 minute speech Fred did recently to the Iowans, and then praising it, the way he did with Romney’s Mormon speech. And I expect Rush to do that on Wed.
TLI: And that my FRiends is called a bull’s-eye.
Well, it's bull something.
I'm sorry, folks. I wish I saw in Fred what the rest of you do that makes you think he can match up against Hillary or Obama and win over undecideds. I think he could kick Edwards' butt, but I don't think it will come to that.
I believe what all of us expected when the talk about Thompson running began was the dulcet-toned radio commentator or the confident leaders he portrayed in Law and Order, The Hunt For Red October, and in other roles. What we got instead -- after an long, long wait through rumored kickoff events, seemingly endless false starts and retooling of his staff -- was a guy who is undoubtedly conservative in most respects, but whose communication skills proved diminished once there was nobody there to shout "Cut!" so he could do it over again.
He was the pinch-hitter called off the bench to save the GOP from Giuliani's grip. That grip has been loosened, but it's likely Thompson will not be the beneficiary. How could a guy that America thought they knew have the spotlight snatched from him by some guy from -- of all places -- Arkansas, home of the Whopper-teller?
Limbaugh seems to be confused. He says he likes that Fred doesn't "drool publicly over the prospect of becoming the most powerful man in the world," but then begs for Thompson to prove he wants the job. Way to go out on a limb, Dave (pun intended). Does anybody think that someone who backs into the White House is suitable for it? I do not, and think Limbaugh suspects many if not most in the electorate are like me.
Most people don't fall into leadership, they aspire to become leaders because of their confidence in what they can accomplish. I have never known any reluctant leader to be any good for the long term. If someone's attitude is, "Aw shucks, I don't wanna be the boss, but if you think I should be, I'll give it a shot," I would tend to say, "It's OK...don't bother" depending on the importance of the task at hand. Thompson's auditioning for the most important job of all.
On paper, I like Hunter most. But he's neither got the charm nor name recognition nor the executive experience. If it were up to me, I would run Hunter against John Garamendi, Gavin Newsom or whoever the Dems will dig up after Arnold's through acting as a puppet for the Kennedys. He stands a better chance at Sacramento than Washington, and if he's a success as a conservative Republican Governor of California, that will be something to run on.
It is an inner motivation to serve and to fix what's wrong in the federal government, not to have the power of the Presidency. That does not come out via fiery or canned speeches but in his stated values and convictions.
The urge to serve was Washington's motivation, too.
His leadership was on display during his Senate years when he wrote a comprehensive report on government reform. This was delivered to President Bush but put on the back burner after 9-11. Also evident were his Federalist convictions when he stood against government intrusion by casting the only vote against several bills.
In the Iowa debate, four other front-runners raised their hands, and Fred challenged the moderator. They meekly put their hands down then except that Mitt clapped for Fred. (Mitt caught on right away as to who was leading.)
Fred told them all afterwards backstage: How could you stand up to foreign enemies if you can't stand up to a debate moderator?
It is an inner motivation to serve and to fix what's wrong in the federal government, not to have the power of the Presidency. That does not come out via fiery or canned speeches but in his stated values and convictions.
The urge to serve was Washington's motivation, too.
Oh, please stop.
Unlike you people who seethe with contempt for Mitt and spam FR with intellectually dishonest personal attacks that would make Clintonoids proud, I don't hate Fred. I wanted to believe in him. But he simply hasn't come through. Fred may have a strong roster of conservative positions, but he hasn't been able to shine through when faced with others who explain why they really want the job. And campaigning is about convincing OTHER people you want the job, not for them to convince YOU.
He's become a tabula rosa for conservatives to project the traits of the perfect candidate, such as your ludicrous comparison of Fred to George Washington. The true believers also strain to turn his weaknesses into strengths. Case in point: He doesn't seem to want the job? "Well...uh...would you rather have Hillary or Obama or Edwards or Romney or McCain, who'll do and say anything to win?" (Holy false dichotomy, Batman!) He's not an inspiring speaker? "[His message and motivation] does not come out via fiery or canned speeches but in his stated values and convictions." If he WAS an inspiring speaker, you would have a problem with that?
The best thing I have to say about any GOP candidate this time around is that all better than what the Dems offer. This election cycle is like being the fan of a team losing its best player, and the free agents and draft picks you have to choose from are only good enough for your team to get better, but not much better (as a S.F. Giants fan facing the post-Bonds era, this is something I know about). Sometimes, the best you can do is grab a player you don't particularly want because he is the only hope for maintaining the status quo and not sliding back further.
You're going to have to back that one up with proof. Rush was often derrisive of Pat back then.
Can you imagine what’s gonna happen if despite all of the publicity for the other “Republican” candidates...Thompson actually wins Iowa?
Fred hasn’t been in stealth mode and he isn’t lazy...he’s been percieved that way by the MSM who have ignored him almost since his appearance on Fox News Sunday and people realized he’d make a good President.
He’s been out there in Iowa talking to the people and gaining endorsements like the one from Steve King.
I for one will not be surprised if he actally wins the Iowa vote.
I am not a Mitt Hater. I refuse to vote for anyone who changes key positions to 'conservative' exactly when he decides to run for President.
I was stating Fed's strong points. I do not think he is a great speaker, and it would help if he were. He does communicate well in town meetings and IMO in long interviews of late and in his new video.
He is not a tabula Rosa to me and neither is he perfect. He is the most consistent on the ISSUES. He answers questions honestly.
I was not comparing Fred to Washington. I was pointing out one similarity between their two lives, that of being drafted to do the job.
I spent a little time with Steve when he was in Laredo / Eagle Pass for a few days inspecting the US-Mexican border. Myself and a couple of other folks were guides/security for Steve and others while they were performing a "feet on the ground" inspection in the border areas that MSM does NOT go to for set piece shots. No fence, no BP, no 911, just nasty terrain and then the river. I can tell you this, Steve is one solid guy that walks it like he talks it. If Steve says Fred is ok, that reaffirms my take on Fred after checking Fred's history and documented positions on various issues.
“Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.” - Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government.” - Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“Roosevelt was surrounded by members of the various Communist movements… At the Yalta and the Tehran conference, where the acquisition of half of Europe by the Soviets was formalized by treaty after WWII, who was Roosevelt’s top advisor? Alger Hiss, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations who was later convicted of espionage as a Soviet spy.” - “New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies”, by William T. Still, p. 171
“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the USA. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ‘ammunition,’ as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.” - Curtis Dall, ex-President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law
“The sovereignty fetish is still so strong in the public mind, that there would appear to be little chance of winning popular assent to American membership in anything approaching a super-state organization. Much will depend on the kind of approach which is used in further popular education.” - 1944 Council on Foreign Relations Report
“The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.” - Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966
“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what’s really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the ’security community’ with a common ‘outer security perimeter…. [ie] wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada… at this … meeting [3-23-05]… President Bush pinned the epithet ‘vigilantes’ on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona… the CFR document calls for ‘a seamless North American market’ and for ‘the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico.’… adopting a ‘tested once’ principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards…. putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system. … a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges…. supervision by a North American Advisory Council of ‘eminent persons’.” - The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” - Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had financed Hitler.
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto-determination practiced in past centuries” - David Rockefeller, Member CFR, in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” - David Rockefeller, of Standard Oil, Chase Manhattan and the Council on Foreign Relations, from his Memoirs in 2002.
“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.” - Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)
“The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.” - Richard Gardner, CFR member writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR’s journal, Foreign Affairs.
I’ve always wondered something about folks like you. I hope the question isn’t too personal, but I have to ask....
How do keep your tin foil hat from falling off when you sleep?
Hank
At least we wake up. You clearly haven't.
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