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My Fellow Evangelicals Blow It By Supporting Mike Huckabee
North Star Writers Group ^ | January 8, 2008 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 01/08/2008 5:56:29 AM PST by Invisigoth

Secular America looks at the rise of Mike Huckabee and fears the growing influence of evangelical Christians in the political process.

This evangelical Christian columnist fears it too, for exactly the opposite reason.

Huckabee’s win in the Iowa caucuses, and his sudden viability as a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, owes to one thing and one thing only. Large numbers of evangelical voters are looking for someone to represent their values, and Huckabee is the only candidate who seems to do so.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianity; election; evangelical; mikehuckabee; openbordershuck; proillegal; valuevoter
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

It’s all Pat Robertson’s fault! He came out with an endorsement of Guiliani and his following compromised with Huckabee instead.

What killing me during this election cycle is once again, the media and it’s blatant bias towards those that THEY want and shove it down the people’s throat.


41 posted on 01/08/2008 6:43:09 AM PST by diverteach
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To: Between the Lines

Most likely a very true.

Once everyone gets done getting their respect, we can choose and get on with it.


42 posted on 01/08/2008 6:43:49 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: trisham
Evangelicals don't help themselves when they make comments like this:

Do you not recognize hyperbole? It should be very easy, just read the posts of those who are spewing gloom and doom because Huckabee has done well in one state.

43 posted on 01/08/2008 6:44:46 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: tortdog
I can’t think of any mainstream religious faith that I would be intolerant of.

How about Islam?

44 posted on 01/08/2008 6:45:15 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Between the Lines

>If you wish to go back to loosing elections, feel free to go ahead and saw off the value leg of the stool.

Look, I mostly agree. It’s important for the GOP to have a moral stand (family values). But it’s equally important to have a stand on fiscal restraint.

In office we have a man (Bush) who has the moral values, but lacks the fiscal restraint. And we had GOP congressional leaders (representatives) who lacked both moral values AND fiscal restraint. That combination screwed the GOP.

The GOP needs a leader who has a proven record of fiscal restraint AND a moral personal life. That isn’t Huckabee, no matter HOW you spin it.


45 posted on 01/08/2008 6:45:48 AM PST by tortdog
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To: Jibaholic
If you non-evangelicals want to help, then great, we'll let you help. And I will be happy to support an economically consevative evangelical. But make the mistake of neglecting the evangelical base in order to nominate socially liberal hawks, and target number one is the Republican party establishment. If we have to vote for pinkos just to drive enough lib[ertarians] into the arms of the lib[erals], then so be it. I'm happy to do it.

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It's good to have you speak so openly. Now we know a little more about some Evangelicals.

I won't vote for Huckabee under any circumstances.

46 posted on 01/08/2008 6:46:20 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Bosco

Baptist Preacher Falwell’s politics seemed to be mostly about Pope Falwell enjoying ordering his subjects to vote as he decreed.
Baptist Cahta’s politics seemed to be mostly about Jimmeh ordering his subjects where to set their speed limits and thermostats.
Baptist Willy’s politics seemed to be mostly about ordering the bedazzled subjects of Oz to pay no attention to the man “baptizing” the woman, behind the curtain.
Baptist Preacher Huckabee’s politics seem to be too much like Bush’s domestic tactics, throwing money and favors at Democrats to keep ‘em from voting against him.


47 posted on 01/08/2008 6:47:00 AM PST by flowerplough (Thompson should be the next president and Reagan should be the next face on Mt. Rushmore)
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To: VRWCmember

In addition to the other points made, Huckabee has rubbed elbows with some pretty rancid anti-Catholic types.

http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212122652.shtml

Qwinn


48 posted on 01/08/2008 6:47:18 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: VRWCmember

Yep, that would be a nightmare. Tell you what, we best be careful of that. I wouldn’t want my President of the faith that has followers that want to kill us, or convert us.


49 posted on 01/08/2008 6:47:20 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: tacticalogic
Pride goeth before a fall.

I've never claimed to be without sin. Never will. That does not mean that we shouldn't fight as hard as we can. That was the meaning of "I did not come here to bring peace, I came here with a sword."

50 posted on 01/08/2008 6:48:38 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: indylindy
Once everyone gets done getting their respect, we can choose and get on with it.

We can only hope that the candidates that best represent all three legs of the stool will still be in the race by then.

51 posted on 01/08/2008 6:48:57 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Invisigoth
I am an evangelical and a Pastor, and I am not voting for Huck in the Florida primary.
I think many in the GOP are simply frustrated and are simply reaching for anyone they think will hear their concerns. I think this is a large part of the Huckabee surge. I don’t think it will be long lasting.
I think the thing that is one of my major concerns this time around is how the MSM is manipulating their candidates and agenda. And if we fall for their propaganda we will elect a President who will turn out to be a disaster for the Republic. We are at war and since no attacks have occurred since 911 we have been lulled into complacency.
52 posted on 01/08/2008 6:48:57 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: VRWCmember

>How about Islam?

Absolutely not. Islam has a lot of redeeming virtues. It’s the radicals if Islam that I would be intolerant of. But I don’t consider radical Islam to be a mainstream faith (though it seems like a lot of people like living in the 7th century).


53 posted on 01/08/2008 6:49:22 AM PST by tortdog
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To: Invisigoth
Large numbers of evangelical voters are looking for someone to represent their values, and Huckabee is the only candidate who seems to do so.

They didn't bother to look too long or hard.

IMO, they stopped looking when they saw his religon.

54 posted on 01/08/2008 6:49:33 AM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: roses of sharon
If it’s been truly an evangelical GOP Party, why is abortion still legal? Why is that some states can go against the peoples will and still allow gay marriage?
55 posted on 01/08/2008 6:50:15 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Between the Lines
Do you not recognize hyperbole? It should be very easy, just read the posts of those who are spewing gloom and doom because Huckabee has done well in one state.

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Do you not recognize reality? There is no chance Huckabee will win, because conservatives won't vote for him. There are clearly some Evangelicals who are so angry at their perceived snubbing by the GOP that they will do anything to get a fellow Evangelical elected, never mind the fact that he is a socialist who advocates for illegals. Does that seem like a winning strategy to you?

56 posted on 01/08/2008 6:50:27 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cinives

“There are perhaps more churchgoing leftists than this nation realizes.”

But Huck is not their candidate, Obama would be.


57 posted on 01/08/2008 6:50:55 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Jibaholic
So you have concocted a faux war in your mind, with those on your side?

To what end?

Surely you see it is not working? Your list of grievances above have all occurred under the Presidents and Congressmen that have been elected under the evangelical litmus tests.

So obviously it is not a change in government that your seek.

What have you produced, what is the result of your imagined battle with the “establishment-suits-elites”?

58 posted on 01/08/2008 6:51:09 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Qwinn

So what. Piss off a bunch of Mormons and Catholics and you still have a sure-fire win in the works. Who needs the votes of members of those wacko religions...


59 posted on 01/08/2008 6:51:21 AM PST by tortdog
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To: flowerplough
Baptist Preacher Falwell’s politics seemed to be mostly about Pope Falwell enjoying ordering his subjects to vote as he decreed.

Wow! You really drank the left's koolaid where Falwell is concerned.

60 posted on 01/08/2008 6:53:38 AM PST by VRWCmember
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