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Exchanges in Latest Debate Highlight a New Dynamic in the Republican Field (Fred Thompson)
NY Times ^ | January 11, 2008 | MICHAEL COOPER and MICHAEL LUO

Posted on 01/10/2008 11:51:32 PM PST by neverdem

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To: redangus
Someone explain something to me. After the debates last night they had the Luntz group on. They overwhelmingly chose Fred as the winner of the debate and made all the proper statements about his credentials etc. Then when they were asked who they were going to vote for they just as overwhelmingly sided with McCain.

IMHO, it's a mix of McCain being a former POW and perceived electability. They don't think a conservative can win.

I volunteered for McCain in NY in 2000. I was a registered Conservative in NY when I lived here until the end of 2007 when I registered with the GOP in order to vote for Thompson in the upcoming GOP primary. As a fellow veteran, I like McCain, but he's disappointed me too many times.

181 posted on 01/11/2008 9:48:11 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Thompson / Hunter in ‘08


182 posted on 01/11/2008 9:56:25 AM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: LibLieSlayer
You call me a moron when you back who you do? Bwahaahaahaahaahaaha

So I am a moron for backing Fred? Slay thyself I suppose.

183 posted on 01/11/2008 9:57:20 AM PST by Mensius
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To: CAluvdubya
A true idiot and should never be anywhere near the White House!

Can't say that too often....then there is Huckleberry...

184 posted on 01/11/2008 10:04:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: americanophile

In the general election he would only be facing two liberals instead of the twelve now staring down his barrel.


185 posted on 01/11/2008 10:08:30 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: americanophile

Then you are obviously rooting for a Guliani/Romney ticket.


186 posted on 01/11/2008 10:11:06 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Mensius

Ok... we back the same guy... I am not a moron... perhaps you are not a moron... but you Do like using the word.

LLS


187 posted on 01/11/2008 10:11:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I am not a moron... perhaps you are not a moron... but you Do like using the word.

Perhaps.

Seemed moronic to post to me explaining someone else's post to me, all the while infering I am ignorant.... I may be a lot of things, but ignorant is well down on the list.

188 posted on 01/11/2008 10:15:12 AM PST by Mensius
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To: fish hawk

Not to mention the pollsters are always in the backwind somewhere with what is really going on. Fred has a very high chance, and its for this reason:

After a strong showing in South Carolina, he will have opened up a white gate to the conservative base in the American South and Midwest. There are red states that are A(sick of the democrats) and B(Can’t TRUST the democrats). I’m confident that the SC campaign is going to propel him ahead of the others.

SUPPORT FRED 08!! CONSERVATIVES, THIS IS OUR GUY!!


189 posted on 01/11/2008 10:33:53 AM PST by WiseGuyF686
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To: Mensius
Ok, I’ll take the blame for firing at the wrong person in a political firefight. I’m sorry.

LLS

190 posted on 01/11/2008 10:40:15 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: americanophile

Fred has already demonstrated that the real key to why conservatism will hammer liberalism unrelentlessly in a general election is because...and let me shout this out loud...

LIBERAL ARGUMENTS CANNOT STAND UP TO CONSERVATIVE ARGUMENTS. PERIOD.

Didn’t you see how Huckleberry looked as if he’d rather be anyplace else, and had a rebuttal that pretty much sounded as if it reflected the image of a mouse ducking back into its hole (to quote a fellow member on Freerepublic) when Fred literally tore him apart about his socialist economic and immigration policies? Case in point

If you stick Thompson up against Osama or Billary, he will destroy them on the microphone. A debate between the two would be like watching Joe Pesci get whacked in Casino


191 posted on 01/11/2008 10:40:53 AM PST by WiseGuyF686
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To: iopscusa

I agree.


192 posted on 01/11/2008 10:46:04 AM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: WiseGuyF686

I’m with you on Fred.


193 posted on 01/11/2008 10:53:01 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: neverdem
A Nightmare on K Street 2: Freddy's Revenge.

Needs PhotoShop help.

194 posted on 01/11/2008 10:57:11 AM PST by anymouse
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To: fish hawk

Additionally...

If Huckleberry getting ripped wasn’t a perfect illustration of how the truth (conservatism) overwhelms and dismantles an illusion (liberalism), then just look at the grassroots of this entire thread.

Americanophile, an obvious liberal Rino, came in here with a few stupid assertions with no proof or evidence to back it up (because there is none, and he knew it), and all of our fellow conservatives on here let him know about it. No one was out of line, and no one mimicked his one-liner responses. The challenge was for him to enter into a discussion and back up what he said.

Why do we challenge him? Because we know we’ll win. It’s that simple. Take into effect the liberals that occasionally call into conservative talk radio. They get dismantled, to a T. All of the time.

This, in essence, is what Thompson really needs to think about during his campaign, and in the future as we head toward November. He needs to really let loose the conservative mindset that will literally:

A: Cream Romney, Giuliani, and Huckabee, exposing them for the Rinos that they are to win the nomination

B: Cream any of the opposing democrats, whether it’s Fraudwards, Osama, or Billary in a debate

C: Win the Presidency


195 posted on 01/11/2008 11:21:02 AM PST by WiseGuyF686
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To: LibLieSlayer

Fair enough. Probably shouldn’t have responded but it kind of struck me the wrong way this morning. I will fine myself and donate an additional $100 to Fred’s campaign. ;)


196 posted on 01/11/2008 11:29:35 AM PST by Mensius
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To: americanophile
Wow, you can tell the future? What are the next Powerball numbers going to be?
197 posted on 01/11/2008 11:39:42 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: whoever
Thompson shook off his laid-back style...

Utterly fascinating how many people thought Thompson did a great job in the debate yesterday because he was not himself! Ironic, isn't it?

198 posted on 01/11/2008 1:33:30 PM PST by arturo (hypocritical bias and double-standards not tolerated here!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I didn’t stay up that late. Good for Fred.


199 posted on 01/11/2008 1:53:06 PM PST by redangus
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To: Mensius
Fair enough. I really do know what you mean about being affected by so much dissension. I am sending Fred another $250.00 tonight... and will max out towards the end of next week. We have got to get him elected! Have a good evening and again I’m sorry.

LLS

200 posted on 01/11/2008 3:42:44 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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