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Secondhand Smoke Debate Continues
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| January 28, 2008
| Samara Kalk Derby
Posted on 01/28/2008 5:43:52 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Gabz; SheLion
Your rebuttal? ;)
It’s coming. And it’s coming fast. My Mayor said he would NOT support a smoking ban...and he was re-elected in a landslide. And guess what? Now he’s FOR a smoking ban, and it starts April 1st. Two pubs and a bowling alley are “exempt” for two more years, for some reason.
That must be where he goes to smoke. *SHRUG*
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:46:06 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
The research that shows this is based on a meta analysis conduct by the US Surgeon General. What they did it take a bunch of studies that were not statistically significant and pooled them together. It’s BS.
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:48:38 PM PST
by
enough_idiocy
(Romney/Thompson or Steele '08)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Excess deaths from lung cancer due to secondhand smoke number 3,400 annually, according to a 2006 surgeon general's report summarizing 30 to 40 years of research, Casanova said.Reports, statistics...anyone got real data?
Nah, I didn't think so.
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:48:47 PM PST
by
Rudder
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Talk about blowin smoke up somebody’s rear end.
Where’s the scientific proof?
As sensical as Human induced Global Warming.. just the last secular religion prior to ALGORE.
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:51:24 PM PST
by
acapesket
(never had a vote count in all my years here)
To: Diana in Wisconsin; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; ...
Nanny State Ping...........
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:52:29 PM PST
by
Gabz
(Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
So much to rebuttal - so little time...............
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:54:22 PM PST
by
Gabz
(Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
“Smoking related death hit close to home for Casanova two months ago when his 75-year-old sister died from throat cancer that was preventable, he said. She had smoked for 50 years, and as a nurse, she should’ve known better, Casanova said. “But she couldn’t quite quit.””
I wonder how the above relates to 2nd hand smoke? And... at 75 years old, should not she have been allowed to smoke?
Nanny state AND smoking Nazi united.
.....Bob
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posted on
01/28/2008 5:56:20 PM PST
by
Lokibob
(Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
The smoke concentration in the non-smoking section of a restaurant with decent ventilation will be many orders of magnitude below the smoke concentration to which a smoker subjects himself. If the former posed a significant hazard, the latter would be instantly fatal.
I would certainly accept that second-hand smoke could be hazardous if a non-smoker were in a poorly-ventilated room surrounded by smokers. I don't see that as any reason to ban smoking in well-ventilated restaurants, though.
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posted on
01/28/2008 6:06:44 PM PST
by
supercat
(Sony delenda est.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Anyone who believes this crap should move to the moon. Can someone tell me how much carbon monoxide a car puts out in 10 mins vs one cigarette? Must be much more since 1/2 hr with it piped in the car and your DEAD!
You can smoke cigerettes for 20 yrs and still walk away!
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posted on
01/28/2008 6:12:30 PM PST
by
MrPiper
To: Diana in Wisconsin
For the life of me I can’t understand why smokers endure this fascism.
If smokers voted in a block they would probably control every local election. This totally puzzles me why they don’t do this and simply quietly accept this.
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posted on
01/28/2008 6:30:14 PM PST
by
jtal
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Just remember that second hand smoke causes global warming so by opposing a total ban on all smoking anywhere in this country you’re deliberately destroying the world.
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posted on
01/28/2008 7:02:06 PM PST
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
You know, it's interesting. My Grandmother, who died in 1983 at the age of 93, grew up and lived in a time where everyone smoked, even in elevators and movie house for a while; airplanes, restaurants, even smoked herself - socially. Was alive and kicking until the day she died.
Her husband died much earlier from complications of diabetes.
Life's a crap shoot people. Live your own life and allow others to do the same. If you don't want to associate with people that don't adhere to your lifestyle; then don't. But don't go around trying to be a nanny to everyone else.
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posted on
01/28/2008 7:08:34 PM PST
by
AFreeBird
(No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
I wonder why a person can’t open up a tobacco lounge, and then also serve beer and soda pop and other refreshments?
To: mamelukesabre
We have a smoking ban here in Indy. Not total, but most of my old favorite restaurants and bars had to go smoke free.
But there's a Hooka bar in town. Owned by a Lebanese guy, who also has a Gyro joint.
Funny.
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posted on
01/28/2008 7:17:52 PM PST
by
AFreeBird
(No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
To: AFreeBird
Well there ya go! All they need to do is start selling cigars, put in a bunch of big screen TVs, add a jukebox, and then get a liquor license.
To: AFreeBird
Well there ya go! All they need to do is start selling cigars, put in a bunch of big screen TVs, add a jukebox, and then get a liquor license.
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Once the government attacked my personal life, the people who voted for these laws, are now potential subjects of personal attacks also.
It was their choice....
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posted on
01/28/2008 7:28:01 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: mamelukesabre
One of my favorite places was a place that was actually three restaurants in one. Only one part was a "non smoking" place from the git go. The other two allowed smoking, the last part, was a cigar martini bar; had great live bands; small intimate, great smoke eater air handling large screen TV's, great food. But because they shared a common kitchen, the city eventually forced them to go non smoking.
I HATE busy bodies with a passion.
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posted on
01/28/2008 7:55:24 PM PST
by
AFreeBird
(No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
“Secondhand smoke has caused 435 deaths a year from sudden infant death syndrome”
Now see! This is why people don’t take this shit seriously!! this statement is absolutely false! No one has EVER BEEN ABLE TO PROVE to ANY degree that second hand smoke causes SIDS! not even close.
It makes me so MAD!!! Blame the parents smoking for something that the doctors haven’t got a clue about. Way to make the grieving parents feel even WORSE! A-HOLES!
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