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The Base is Wrong About the Gang of 14
American Thinker ^ | January 30, 2008 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 01/30/2008 7:19:07 AM PST by ECM

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To: Nascar Dad

I’m a NASCAR dad too. Got my Bristol (spring race) tickets this week.


61 posted on 01/30/2008 8:02:33 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

They don’t have enough votes; at least not yet.


62 posted on 01/30/2008 8:03:44 AM PST by csmusaret (John McCain is a self rightous little prick.)
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To: csmusaret

>>If we get Hillary or Obama nominating Supreme Court Justices I think we will be glad we still have the fillibuster option.

At least until the Dems go with the nuclear option. Do you honestly expect them to play fair?


63 posted on 01/30/2008 8:04:21 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: vikingd00d

They don’t have enough votes to end a fillibuster. Not yet anyway.


64 posted on 01/30/2008 8:07:03 AM PST by csmusaret (John McCain is a self rightous little prick.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

oh i dont know about that
true Amnesty and aversion to tax cuts but McCain gets it with the war (for the most part), better with gun rights, better on abortion, better with spending cuts (in theory we shall see if he can actually do this if elected), and i do think he would appoint better justices. not GREAT justices mind you but a heck of a lot better than Clinton/Bama would.
Again i am saying BETTER than Clinton/Bama not great or stupendous but better than the alternative two on the Dem side.


65 posted on 01/30/2008 8:10:02 AM PST by DM1
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To: Just mythoughts
AMEN! I can’t believe the gal of those purveyors of deceit and deception.

How could anyone with a regard for truth “spin” the gang of fourteen as positive accomplishment for conservatives?

66 posted on 01/30/2008 8:11:41 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Obadiah
Is Trent wearing lipstick in this picture?? Closet Rudy supporter or Larry Craig’s stall mate??
67 posted on 01/30/2008 8:16:04 AM PST by skully (Hi my name is Skully and I'm a recovering Fredhead.)
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To: MBB1984

I wish it were that simple, then I could join you in blaming McCain...

I sure don't remember ongoing filibuters over each of the appointees, after this so-called "gang of 14" agreement. Am I missing something?

It's a bit more complicated than that, isn't it? [not that I prefer it to be that way]

If we wanted to exercise a 'nuclear option', perhaps it would be best to have done it earlier on, after Republicans had regained a Senate majority, or if not that far back, then at least a few years earlier...
As it was, we would have been stinking up the joint, on our way out!

68 posted on 01/30/2008 8:17:46 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: ECM
These outfits can make all the excuses they want for McCain.

He ain't my candidate and the party that nominates this traitorous bastard is no longer my party.

Talk all you want about keeping Hillary or Obama out, but I don't see any benefit to ruining what's left of the country under the guise of pretending to be conservative. Ruin is Ruin. Let the liberals have the credit for it because the result is the same.

The GOP nominates this man for President and my entire family will change our registration from GOP to independent.

69 posted on 01/30/2008 8:23:25 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: ECM

Anyone that thinks the Republican Senators will filibuster an ultra-liberal judge is just whistling in the wind.

The RINOS will cave in and let the judges go to a vote.

This writer is caught up in the appeasment strategy of John McCain.


70 posted on 01/30/2008 8:24:16 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: ECM

Screw McAmnesty, and screw the media that continually props him up.


71 posted on 01/30/2008 8:25:24 AM PST by Grunthor (No McCain-Kennedy. No Huckaliar. NO JUDY! Not primary, not general, not ever.)
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To: ECM

Damn, this guy sounds like Medved.


72 posted on 01/30/2008 8:27:53 AM PST by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: ECM

This guy has been reading my posts. The “Gang of Fourteen” was a masterpiece.
The rats never knew what hit them.

That said, McCain is still a Democrat scumbag and there are no vice grips in the world strong enough to put on my nose so I could ever vote for him.


73 posted on 01/30/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Obadiah

“Looks like me and the Maytag repair guy will be pretty lonely on November 4 as we both sit home with nothing to do.”

I was going to sit home but now I believe that for POTUS I will vote third party, and following that, down-the-line Repub. I just WILL NOT EVER vote for Juan McAmnesty.


74 posted on 01/30/2008 8:30:09 AM PST by Grunthor (No McCain-Kennedy. No Huckaliar. NO JUDY! Not primary, not general, not ever.)
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To: savedbygrace
Simple. The Gang of 14 stopped the Nuclear Option from being put in place, which in turn leaves the Executive appointments filibuster still in place as a Dim option.

Yup... The President is supposed to make appointments. The Senate is supposed to approve/dissaprove them by majority vote. THAT is what the constitution requires... and, we were ABOUT To establish that principle once and for all... Until McCain, Graham, and their group of squishy fish jumped in to keep the sham going.

I know using the "Nuclear Option" meant the same process would apply when Dims were in power.... That's fine. It's the way the process is SUPPOSED to work.

Elections matter. And, winning Presidents get to pick judges... NOT a minority cabal in the Senate.

75 posted on 01/30/2008 8:31:26 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: ECM

Nope. Sorry. I disagree with the article.


76 posted on 01/30/2008 8:32:36 AM PST by kidd
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To: tlb
Actually, had the nuke option passed, it is likely that the Republican majority in the Senate would be 57-59, not a minority of 49. And it would have helped in the House, as well.

Pleasing the base matters. Pleasing the evangelical base in 2005-2006 would have mattered a lot.

Got to know when to compromise and when to play hardball. I will agree that the Republicans in the Senate need to play hardball should a Demonrat be elected President in 2008, whether or not they have a majority. Of course, with McCain, Snowe and Voinovich this is not likely.

77 posted on 01/30/2008 8:35:29 AM PST by bIlluminati (There is no compassion in feeding the bitterness of the common man with empty government promises.)
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To: BlueDragon

Yes, you forget how many judicial nominees had been blocked by the democrats. This created a huge log jam of time and effort to get the nominees subsequently through. The left still had the threat of filibuster available, even if not utilized, and this also caused more delay. So, a trickle of them went through and then the democrats came in power. The left did not need to filibuster judges any more once in power.

The nuclear option would have opened the flood gate of nominees prior to 2006. It should have been utilized years ago.


78 posted on 01/30/2008 8:37:36 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Lancey Howard
This guy has been reading my posts. The “Gang of Fourteen” was a masterpiece. The rats never knew what hit them. That said, McCain is still a Democrat scumbag and there are no vice grips in the world strong enough to put on my nose so I could ever vote for him.

Masterpiece for whom.... how many judges have been placed upon the benches since President Bush was elected, compared to Clintonism dark days of judicial appointing? The Republicans backed US into a corner with the leadership of all things call a GANG? Oh my, statesmanship has reached the muddy bottom.

79 posted on 01/30/2008 8:43:51 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: ECM

Two words, Bull S***.


80 posted on 01/30/2008 8:44:40 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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