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Reagan Library Republican Presidential Debate: January 30, 2008 (Official Thread)
CNN ^ | January 30, 2008

Posted on 01/30/2008 4:16:12 PM PST by khnyny

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To: padre35

“Henceforth he shall be known as..Cain..”

That wasn’t supposed to come out until after he won the Primaries...the Dems have already printed that button.


2,521 posted on 01/31/2008 3:05:21 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I know you are probable not awake now, but this statement: McCain is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO far from perfect but he will keep us safe. Is SO wrong.

He will throw open the southern border and let all the terroist in that want to come. Ya, feel safer? NOT!

2,522 posted on 01/31/2008 3:13:33 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: TeleStraightShooter

Plus- it would seem, according to this, that McCain would be proposing a very public timetable in Congress, no? So this is nowhere near the private negotiations that Romney was talking about.


2,523 posted on 01/31/2008 3:23:37 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
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To: FreedBird

“McCain is lost on the economy. This is not his subject.”

McCain ‘lost on economy’/VP Paul ‘lost on foreign policy’

yeah that’s the ticket!


2,524 posted on 01/31/2008 3:31:01 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: hope

I do understand, Hope~~


2,525 posted on 01/31/2008 3:35:41 AM PST by jaycee
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To: Pravious
McCain’s trying hard to disguise his natural unpleasant personality. Instead, he just comes off as sedated.

Exactly. As my husband and I were watching the debate I said McCain is trying really hard not to raise his temper and reveal the nutcase that he is. Probably sedated.

2,526 posted on 01/31/2008 4:03:02 AM PST by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: gpapa

I repeat again, we have 6 R Senators in this state. It’s a D oligarchy, abortion is a state religion here.


2,527 posted on 01/31/2008 4:15:26 AM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: whatisthetruth

this will help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9KlQPX1qiE


2,528 posted on 01/31/2008 4:20:27 AM PST by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: Hoodat

How could some of us find that video? If we put in a search, what would be the best wording for it....we can at least try!

I know that John McCain has a violent temper as his face turns blood-red. He uses terrible language toward his Republican ‘friends’ if they argue on an issue with him. I can’t repeat the words he uses but I did read it recently on F.R. A violent temper is no way to talk to other countries over serious disagreements. Its good to be stern but in the right way and I am not sure McCain could hold his tongue and that pointing finger!


2,529 posted on 01/31/2008 4:27:13 AM PST by jaycee
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To: Friendofgeorge

So she rendered a decision you don’t agree with, and that makes her a “slutty whore”. What is this, DU?


2,530 posted on 01/31/2008 4:35:25 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: The Pack Knight
So she rendered a decision you don’t agree with, and that makes her a “slutty whore”. What is this, DU?

...........................................

NOW THAT IS REALLY FUNNY!!! You fault me for not agreeing with a decision she made and then go on to say I am from DU because you don't agree with my decision.

If you believe as I do that abortion is murder, you would understand.

Many other bad decisions from her that offended God, to many to mention. PEACE AND OUT

2,531 posted on 01/31/2008 5:04:04 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (Romney for President!!! Rudy and McCain suck! Huck and John stop Bush bashing)
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To: Friendofgeorge
Yes, I am saying you sound like someone on DU. People like you are the reason the pro-life movement is on the fringe.

If you could discuss the issue rationally rather than screaming that "abortion is murder" and that a Supreme Court Justice is a "whore", you might actually get somewhere.

As it stands, they couldn't even pass anti-abortion legislation in South Dakota, which ain't exactly a blue state.
2,532 posted on 01/31/2008 5:25:53 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: gpapa

Who cares about a bill in Mass to allow abortions? It is what the people there choose by overwhelming numbers. Romney told the people that if elected he would not reverse the law on abortion - that he would keep the status quo.

Romney kept his word. Mass isn’t the issue. It is about what each person stands for today.

But the joint stand of Huck and McCain will kill the chance of conservatives to select Romney.

McCain strategized well. He used the religious right to elevate himself. It was a brilliant move.


2,533 posted on 01/31/2008 5:33:51 AM PST by tortdog
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To: jveritas

It reminded me of Queeg rolling his steel marbles.


2,534 posted on 01/31/2008 5:42:12 AM PST by tillacum (The only way to vote is REPUBLICAN, no matter what. We've got to win.)
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To: Pajamajan

Romney’s balanced approach last night was less about next Tuesday and more about the following:

1. defending his honor against the ugly and distorted attack regarding Iraq “timetables”

2. demonstrating to conservatives that McCain has no intention of trying to meet conservatives half-way (“choose patriotism over profit”)

3. revealing to the GOP faithful and power brokers from coast to coast that they are on the precipice of disaster by nominating McCain. This Johnny One-Note looked and sounded like a tired Vaudeville act, complemented by narcissism and self-righteous attacks when cornered. We have a loser on our hands, and McCain is compelled to rattle off stale names from the GOP sidelines just to prop up his own deficiencies. McCain will be a disaster in a debate against either Democrat, particularly Obama.

4. Romney is coolly positioning himself for a new run in 2012, b/c he knows that McCain is unelectable.

Final thought: I am reading a biography of Winston Churchill, in which he (Churchill) states unequivocally that the supreme qualification of a leader is temperament, not intellect. McCain did not pass the temperament test last night. He was volatile, defensive, snarky, narcissistic, and worse.


2,535 posted on 01/31/2008 5:43:04 AM PST by mwl1
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To: All
IMHO This was McCain's worst moment in the debate.

MCCAIN: Well, of course, he said he wanted a timetable. Before that, we have to understand that we lost the 2006 election and the Democrats thought that they had a mandate. They thought they had a mandate to get us out of Iraq.

And I was prepared to sacrifice whatever was necessary in order to stand up for what I believed in.

Now, in December of 2006, after the election, Governor Romney was won't weigh in. I'm a governor."

At the time, he didn't want to weigh in because he was a governor, I was out there on the front lines with my friends saying, "We not only can't withdraw, but we've got to have additional troops over there in order for us to have a chance to succeed."

Then in April, April was a very interesting year (sic) in 2007. That's when Harry Reid said the war is lost and we've got to get out. And the buzzword was "timetables, timetables."

Governor, the right answer to that question was "no," not what you said, and that was we don't want to have them lay in the weeds until we leave and Maliki and the president should enter into some kind of agreement for, quote, "timetables."

"Timetables" was the buzzword for the...

ROMNEY: Why don't you use the whole quote, Senator?

MCCAIN: ... withdrawal. That...

ROMNEY: Why don't you use the whole quote? Why do you insist on...

MCCAIN: I'm using the whole quote, where you said "I won't"...

ROMNEY: ... not using the actual quote? That's not what I said.

MCCAIN: The actual quote is, "We don't want them to lay in the weeds until we leave." That is the actual quote and I'm sure...

ROMNEY: What does that mean?

MCCAIN: ... fact-checkers --

ROMNEY: What is the meaning?

MCCAIN: It means a timetable until we leave.

2,536 posted on 01/31/2008 5:43:52 AM PST by McGruff (I am against McCain more than I am for Romney.)
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To: ari-freedom

Gomer did not win the debate. LOL


2,537 posted on 01/31/2008 5:45:50 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Pajamajan

WOW! You are awesome. I have to agree with everything you said...with one small exception. Forgive me for saying that I really don’t think Obama is a “natural” politician. I do think he is very polished and well spoken when he gives a speech. But unlike Reagan...he is not good with on the spot questions. I might be wrong...but I think like Hillary, everything has to be rehearsed for him. The longer he is on the campaign trail...the more this weakness will show.


2,538 posted on 01/31/2008 5:46:51 AM PST by txlurker
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To: Marcella

I agree, Jim Rob does a tough job, and I suspect it will get tougher during the next election cycle. By the way, I too have cancer. Dx’d October for early stage Prostate cancer. Currently undergoing radiation treatments. Feel like someone has kicked m in the stomach.


2,539 posted on 01/31/2008 5:47:29 AM PST by devane617 (I WILL NOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE !!!!)
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To: Little_GTO
Apparently, in Washington, Timetables only means Surrender.
I think this is where McCain got his definition.

His buddy Kennedy told him that Timetable meant withdraw and surrender. So, he heard Mitt use that word in an interview (not realizing that a CEO and project manager might have a different definition of the word) and thought Mitt meant surrender.

Here in the real world, the word has a different meaning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timetables
“A timetable or schedule is an organized list, usually set out in tabular form, providing information about a series of arranged events: in particular, the time at which it is planned these events will take place.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/timetables
“timetable

Main Entry:

Function:
noun
Date:
1838
2 a: a schedule showing a planned order or sequence”

2,540 posted on 01/31/2008 5:47:29 AM PST by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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